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ShowtimeSBMVP · 11:13 AM

Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal

By Ian Rapoport NFL.com
NFL Media Insider
Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes | 2 Comments
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Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations."

Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process.

While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off.

"This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped."

Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations.

The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients.

Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred.

While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions.

"When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper."

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Denver is giving former Steelers WR Emmanuel Sanders a 3-year, $15M contract. Team announced agreement.

Messier · 03-16-2014, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

Reid is soft. He doesn't know how to be assertive. He's wasting our time.

Reid?

Mother****erJones · 03-16-2014, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

Man, it sucks to be you guys. You were already staring at our taint in the division race, and then FA opens and we make drastic improvements to our already elite team while you lose a bunch of players and only real signing in a two down linebacker. Now you actually try to fill a hole with one of the better players on the market only to watch him jilt you at the altar.

Such a pity.

Who the **** is this twat? 43-8 bitch enough said. Enjoy Seattle or SFs taint in the Super Bowl IF you can get by NE when all their stud aren't hurt.

FloridaMan88 · 03-16-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Anyone blaming the Chiefs here are braindead and just looking to bitch about something.

Agreements in principle happen with every player. No contract that gets agreed to is immediately ready to sign. Physicals have to be given first.

The Chiefs did nothing wrong, but are getting flamed for this?

It is the ongoing theme of the Chiefs getting bent over in free agency.

And the bigger picture is the Chiefs have had an absolutely brutal offseason thus far.

vailpass · 03-16-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Honest question: You really don't know?

No, nor has it been shown to be the case. I don't mistake big boy business for being unethical.
How was Elway complicit in the agent's deal dealings with other teams?

In58men · 03-16-2014, 10:09 AM

ping2000 · 03-16-2014, 10:09 AM

You would love to think that this would put the Broncos in cap hell, but it never does. All the teams we hate seem to always have the cash to sign people and get decent free agents. Face it, we are second or third tier. It sucks.

**LoneWolf** · 03-16-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

We are being told after we heard that he agreed to terms with the Broncos that he had already agreed to terms with the Chiefs.

I ask again, if he agreed to terms with the Chiefs, why wasn't that news released, like it is for every other FA?

Not every team runs to the media to report their agreements. The fact that an agreement was reached between KC and Sander's agent isn't being disputed by anyone. In fact, it is being backed up by others outside the KC organization. Now that Denver is aware of this fact, if they actually let Sander's sign a contract then it is unethical on their part.

PA Chiefs · 03-16-2014, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Honest question: You really don't know?

Not sure but I would say the unwritten rules of the NFL would make him responsible to ask the agent if he is still available to be signed. So it may or may not be on him if the agent lied to him, but you would have to figure Elway has more inside info into even our situation then we as fans would have. I don't know if this is something that can be proven unless another team would say that the agent called and said we have this deal agreed to but we want this. I think we are just best served by moving on and saying **** the donks.

Mother****erJones · 03-16-2014, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Not every team runs to the media to report their agreements. The fact that an agreement was reached between KC and Sander's agent isn't being disputed by anyone. In fact, it is being backed up by others outside the KC organization. Now that Denver is aware of this fact, if they actually let Sander's sign a contract then it is unethical on their part.

Their entire franchise is unethical. Bunch of one who sucks the peniss

TEX · 03-16-2014, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

How do you know that? I'm not saying he didn't but haven't seen that anywhere.
Too, who knows what the agent told Elway?
This looks to be all on the agent.

Why are you here now ??? You havent been around much since the Super Bowl... I don't give a shit how long you been on this board you're being a real f***** prick playing like you don't know what's going on. You're taking a page right out of MH Mule Tool's book because when it comes right down to it you all share the same donkey douche boy DNA.

Mother****erJones · 03-16-2014, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Not every team runs to the media to report their agreements. The fact that an agreement was reached between KC and Sander's agent isn't being disputed by anyone. In fact, it is being backed up by others outside the KC organization. Now that Denver is aware of this fact, if they actually let Sander's sign a contract then it is unethical on their part.

Exactly. Hell no one knew Julius Peppers was signing in Green Bay til his agent posted a photo on twitter

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-16-2014, 10:12 AM

BREAKING: Emmanuel Sanders also agreed to terms with the Wizards, Padres and Blackhawks last night.
— Rich Eisen (@richeisen) March 16, 2014

**Bowser** · 03-16-2014, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

No, nor has it been shown to be the case. I don't mistake big boy business for being unethical.
How was Elway complicit in the agent's deal dealings with other teams?

Poor Elway, just caught up in the wash of all this.

Come on. The agent likely called him up and told him what the Chiefs offered, and he matched/beat it. He'll never publicly cop to it, he's not that stupid, but there is no way he didn't know. Signing him without having him for a visit, while Sanders is just coincidentally in Kansas City about to sign with a rival? Yeah.

FloridaMan88 · 03-16-2014, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PA Chiefs

Not sure but I would say the unwritten rules of the NFL would make him responsible to ask the agent if he is still available to be signed. So it may or may not be on him if the agent lied to him, but you would have to figure Elway has more inside info into even our situation then we as fans would have. I don't know if this is something that can be proven unless another team would say that the agent called and said we have this deal agreed to but we want this. I think we are just best served by moving on and saying **** the donks.

I admire Elway going for broke and stopping at nothing to try to push his team over the top.

Mother****erJones · 03-16-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

BREAKING: Emmanuel Sanders also agreed to terms with the Wizards, Padres and Blackhawks last night.
— Rich Eisen (@richeisen) March 16, 2014

You're late I posted that a few pages ago

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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1246009	WR Emmanuel Sanders signs with Denver - Executives cry foul Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal By Ian Rapoport NFL.com NFL Media Insider Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes \| 2 Comments Email Print Read Discuss Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations." Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process. While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off. "This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped." Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations. The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients. Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred. While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions. "When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper." Adam Schefter ✔ @AdamSchefter Follow Denver is giving former Steelers WR Emmanuel Sanders a 3-year, $15M contract. Team announced agreement. Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 03-16-2014 at 11:13 AM..
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