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ShowtimeSBMVP · 11:13 AM

Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal

By Ian Rapoport NFL.com
NFL Media Insider
Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes | 2 Comments
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Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations."

Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process.

While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off.

"This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped."

Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations.

The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients.

Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred.

While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions.

"When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper."

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**Bowser** · 03-17-2014, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I've been out-of-pocket...so Sanders said he'd play for the Chiefs, and then jacked you guys offfor a minute and then signed with the Broncos? That's perfect. lol

You guys are the best Fans in the world. No body should put up with that much shit.

The only thing I can think of is that Lamar sold his soul for a playoff win over heavily favored Houston in '93. We've been paying exorbitant prices with this team ever since. Damndest thing ever.

Garcia Bronco · 03-17-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He apparently negotiated with Tampa in between.

I'd imagine that's very standard when you're trying to bid yourself up.

TEX · 03-17-2014, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He apparently negotiated with Tampa in between.

All the while spending two nights in KC...

TEX · 03-17-2014, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I've been out-of-pocket...so Sanders said he'd play for the Chiefs, and then jacked you guys offfor a minute and then signed with the Broncos? That's perfect. lol

You guys are the best Fans in the world. No body should put up with that much shit.

The "best" part is that Denver never even met with the guy and they agreed on a deal.

...That's like flying this girl to town and putting her up in a hotel and she leaves with some dude that you ****ing hate. Kinda funny when you think about it.

Carlota69 · 03-17-2014, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I'd imagine that's very standard when you're trying to bid yourself up.

Yeah, but it's not standard to fax over an offer sheet from one team, after you've agreed on the numbers, and shop it to another team.

I get your a broncos fan, and happy you got the guy, but to think this is no big deal is something else. This is bad business, and not standard in the NFL and I'm sure other sports as well.

Garcia Bronco · 03-17-2014, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

The "best" part is that Denver never even met with the guy and they agreed on a deal.

...That's like flying this girl to town and putting her up in a hotel and she leaves with some dude that you ****ing hate. Kinda funny when you think about it.

If Peyton wasn't our QB, then that would concern me more. If true, maybe he got a really good reference from a trusted source. Or maybe it was just to make other teams weaker.

Garcia Bronco · 03-17-2014, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

Yeah, but it's not standard to fax over an offer sheet from one team, after you've agreed on the numbers, and shop it to another team.

I get your a broncos fan, and happy you got the guy, but to think this is no big deal is something else. This is bad business, and not standard in the NFL and I'm sure other sports as well.

I wouldn't do that either, but it's his career and he hadn't actually signed yet. Point being that I would think many would be used to it on the admin side of the teams. Sanders probably just line stepped. It'll get him in the end if he does it enough.

As far as the Broncos, I root for the laundry. I don't care who's on the team as long as they win and give it there all on the field.

Carlota69 · 03-17-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I wouldn't do that either, but it's his career and he hadn't actually signed yet. Point being that I would think many would be used to it on the admin side of the teams. Sanders probably just line stepped. It'll get him in the end if he does it enough.

As far as the Broncos, I root for the laundry. I don't care who's on the team as long as they win and give it there all on the field.

No one actually signs til days up to a week later, like Revis just signed his deal with the Pats today, yet it was agreed upon a week ago. That's the problem. It's all gentlemans agreements, til the actual contract is signed, days later. If it was standard To do what Sanders and his agent did, well, that would be a load of bad business and I don't even know how the sport would function when it came to FAs.

GloryDayz · 03-17-2014, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

If Peyton wasn't our QB, then that would concern me more. If true, maybe he got a really good reference from a trusted source. Or maybe it was just to make other teams weaker.

Why that mother****er!!!!

Garcia Bronco · 03-18-2014, 03:00 PM

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ders-4624.html

Weinberg says the Chiefs and Bus are butt-hurt

""If we reached or agreed to terms with the Chiefs, we would have signed with Kansas City and never turned back," Weinberg said. "There were absolutely no handshakes, verbal agreements or signed documents when Sanders left the Chiefs facility. Emmanuel was on his way to the airport when teams called us. We didn’t ‘shop any deals’ or ‘reach out’ to a single team. My fiduciary responsibility is to the players I represent and not to the NFL teams or their 'good ole boys' tactics.
"I am sorry if I upset any of the teams, but I know they realize my contractual and fiduciary duties are always going to benefit my client, Emmanuel Sanders. As everyone in the NFL knows, a deal is not a deal until it’s signed and approved by the league office. I'm so happy for and proud of Emmanuel. He was patient throughout the whole free-agent process and received a fair deal from one of the best teams in the entire league, a championship contender, with Hall of Fame quarterbacks running everything both on and off the field. This was his hope from the very beginning of our relationship.”

**Bowser** · 03-18-2014, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ders-4624.html

Weinberg says the Chiefs and Bus are butt-hurt

And I here I thought he was going to give a full confession to what a sleazy underhanded **** he is.

**The Franchise** · 03-18-2014, 03:08 PM

That's the most convoluted bullshit story I've ever heard.

Garcia Bronco · 03-18-2014, 03:11 PM

Did you read the whole thing? The Chiefs were jerking him around.

Told him to come back and they would increase the offer and then reduced the offer, and tehn pulled the offer. Old JD did this to himself and it sounds over ego. Either way the Chiefs pulled the offer before he agreed to anything with Denver.

so that should clear this up, thought you guys should know.

Garcia Bronco · 03-18-2014, 03:15 PM

"While Sanders was en route to the airport, Weinberg received a call from a Chiefs executive. Weinberg was told that if Sanders would turn the car around and return to the building, the Chiefs were prepared to improve their offer.
"At the same time, the Bucs front office was also calling Weinberg with a new offer. With two new offers in hand, and still no offer from the 49ers, Sanders told Weinberg that for now, he had decided not to visit California. Instead, he instructed the driver to turn the car around.

"However, when Weinberg got Sanders on the phone with Chiefs executive, the X amount of money – the reason the car turned around – was no longer there. The new amount the Chiefs spoke of was $4 million less than it had been just moments ago."

**The Franchise** · 03-18-2014, 03:15 PM

Yeah....that's HIS side of the story.

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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1256009	WR Emmanuel Sanders signs with Denver - Executives cry foul Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal By Ian Rapoport NFL.com NFL Media Insider Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes \| 2 Comments Email Print Read Discuss Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations." Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process. While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off. "This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped." Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations. The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients. Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred. While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions. "When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper." Adam Schefter ✔ @AdamSchefter Follow Denver is giving former Steelers WR Emmanuel Sanders a 3-year, $15M contract. Team announced agreement. Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 03-16-2014 at 11:13 AM..
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Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $1773136	http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ders-4624.html Weinberg says the Chiefs and Bus are butt-hurt ""If we reached or agreed to terms with the Chiefs, we would have signed with Kansas City and never turned back," Weinberg said. "There were absolutely no handshakes, verbal agreements or signed documents when Sanders left the Chiefs facility. Emmanuel was on his way to the airport when teams called us. We didn’t ‘shop any deals’ or ‘reach out’ to a single team. My fiduciary responsibility is to the players I represent and not to the NFL teams or their 'good ole boys' tactics. "I am sorry if I upset any of the teams, but I know they realize my contractual and fiduciary duties are always going to benefit my client, Emmanuel Sanders. As everyone in the NFL knows, a deal is not a deal until it’s signed and approved by the league office. I'm so happy for and proud of Emmanuel. He was patient throughout the whole free-agent process and received a fair deal from one of the best teams in the entire league, a championship contender, with Hall of Fame quarterbacks running everything both on and off the field. This was his hope from the very beginning of our relationship.”
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03-18-2014, 03:08 PM	#3042
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	That's the most convoluted bullshit story I've ever heard.
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03-18-2014, 03:11 PM	#3043
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $1773136	Did you read the whole thing? The Chiefs were jerking him around. Told him to come back and they would increase the offer and then reduced the offer, and tehn pulled the offer. Old JD did this to himself and it sounds over ego. Either way the Chiefs pulled the offer before he agreed to anything with Denver. so that should clear this up, thought you guys should know.
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03-18-2014, 03:15 PM	#3044
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $1773136	"While Sanders was en route to the airport, Weinberg received a call from a Chiefs executive. Weinberg was told that if Sanders would turn the car around and return to the building, the Chiefs were prepared to improve their offer. "At the same time, the Bucs front office was also calling Weinberg with a new offer. With two new offers in hand, and still no offer from the 49ers, Sanders told Weinberg that for now, he had decided not to visit California. Instead, he instructed the driver to turn the car around. "However, when Weinberg got Sanders on the phone with Chiefs executive, the X amount of money – the reason the car turned around – was no longer there. The new amount the Chiefs spoke of was $4 million less than it had been just moments ago."
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03-18-2014, 03:15 PM	#3045
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	Yeah....that's HIS side of the story.
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