Chiefs Fisher to LT? - Page 22

In58men · 03-25-2014, 06:00 AM

@AdamSchefter: Chiefs HC Andy Reid said he plans to go to camp this summer with former No. 1 overall pick Eric Fisher playing left tackle.

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jd1020 · 03-25-2014, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

But why? We're going to get a 3rd rd comp pick for Albert, same as what we would have gotten.

Its not even close to the same.

beach tribe · 03-25-2014, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I don't buy that at all. That's the "he was just holding back" argument. If you want to say he got more comfortable in the offense, fine. If you want to talk about him being more aggressive throwing the football, that's fine, too. But the "he was holding back because he didn't need to" thing? I will never buy that.

None of those guys rely as much on their legs as Alex Smith did to be effective. Smith also has had shoulder and concussion problems in the past. A flare up or reinjury of either could be a big problem for his long-term health.

The bigger issue, that I was trying to call out, is that with the exception of Justin Houston and MAYBE Eric Fisher (who hasn't proven he is even competent yet), all the rest of the "core" players are guys who are nearing the end of their prime/hitting the wrong side of 30.

It seems like a strange time to switch to a long-term build approach.

It's not a long term approach IMO.
This team has the talent to compete for championships next season.
Our core players should get their window.
To be a good/great team you have to draft well to have guys in place to take over as core players.
Guys are always going to be getting old. It's up to the FO to draft well to have new guys to take over.

beach tribe · 03-25-2014, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

No, we wouldn't.

There would still be a ton of people saying "just give them a chance. The jury is still out."

Of course there would, but fact is, we are not having that conversation are we?

beach tribe · 03-25-2014, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

But we got nothing in return for a left tackle we franchise tagged last year. Dorsey ****ed this up.

I agree it was muffed. But we are getting a 3rd as a comp pick.

But I would like jd and others to explain to me why a third rnd comp pick is no where near the same?

Had we straight up let Albert walk last off-season, instead of franchising him for a year, we probably would not be getting a pick at all because of the FAs we signed.

jd1020 · 03-25-2014, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

But I would like jd and others to explain to me why a third rnd comp pick is no where near the same?

Its pretty simple.

A 3rd round pick is TRADEABLE. A comp pick IS NOT.

Nevermind the fact that the Dolphins have the 81st pick in the 3rd, 15 picks before the comp picks even start rolling out. But we wont even get the pick til next year.

beach tribe · 03-25-2014, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Are you stupid or something?

I actually tried to delete this post lol. You are quick on the draw.

**Bowser** · 03-25-2014, 12:45 PM

Comp picks come at the end of the round I believe, therefore the Dolphins third rounder would have been more valuable to us this year.

Dorsey either overestimated what Albert would be worth in a trade, or got greedy. Either way, not a great first move for a new GM. Now if Fisher pans out and is everything we hope he can be at left tackle, nobody will remember any of this crap about Albert. At this point, that's a sizeable "if".

beach tribe · 03-25-2014, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Its pretty simple.

A 3rd round pick is TRADEABLE. A comp pick IS NOT.

Nevermind the fact that the Dolphins have the 81st pick in the 3rd, 19 picks before the comp picks even start rolling out. But we wont even get the pick til next year.

Oh, God. Probably a 5% chance we would have traded it.
We also got another year of pro-bowl production at LT.
Fisher may have gotten Smith killed last season.

jd1020 · 03-25-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Oh, God. Probably a 5% chance we would have traded it.
We also got another year of pro-bowl production at LT.
Fisher may have gotten Smith killed last season.

That 1 year of production was worth what?

A 1st round exit in the playoffs?

How could we have ever lived without that!!!!!

It's much better that we get a 2015 comp pick out of the deal!!!!!

beach tribe · 03-25-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Comp picks come at the end of the round I believe, therefore the Dolphins third rounder would have been more valuable to us this year.

Dorsey either overestimated what Albert would be worth in a trade, or got greedy. Either way, not a great first move for a new GM. Now if Fisher pans out and is everything we hope he can be at left tackle, nobody will remember any of this crap about Albert. At this point, that's a sizeable "if".

Like I said multiple times, they obviously ****ed up.
But we are also not left with "nothing".

Just Passin' By · 03-25-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I agree it was muffed. But we are getting a 3rd as a comp pick.

But I would like jd and others to explain to me why a third rnd comp pick is no where near the same?

Had we straight up let Albert walk last off-season, instead of franchising him for a year, we probably would not be getting a pick at all because of the FAs we signed.

Comp picks really come after the round has been completed (all 32 picks have been made), not during the normal activities of the round. Realistically, they're sandwich picks, even though they are tacked on to the end of the rounds. They're also not able to be traded.

beach tribe · 03-25-2014, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

That 1 year of production was worth what?

A 1st round exit in the playoffs?

How could we have ever lived without that!!!!!

And if Fisher got Smith Killed it would have been worth 2 2nds.

htismaqe · 03-25-2014, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Of course there would, but fact is, we are not having that conversation are we?

That's the exact conversation we've been having, since free agency started.

beach tribe · 03-25-2014, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

That 1 year of production was worth what?

A 1st round exit in the playoffs?

How could we have ever lived without that!!!!!

It's much better that we get a 2015 comp pick out of the deal!!!!!

Nobody ever said. Better. They ****ed up.

htismaqe · 03-25-2014, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Oh, God. Probably a 5% chance we would have traded it.
We also got another year of pro-bowl production at LT.
Fisher may have gotten Smith killed last season.

He still might.

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