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ArrowheadHawk · 07:58 PM

11 straight Conference Championships!

Ranking #9 (26-8,13-5)

Non-Con Schedule (11-2)

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Conference Schedule

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Fri, March 20 NMSU at Kansas Omaha, NE CBS at 11:15a.m. CT

Players

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Prison Bitch · 03-25-2014, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter

"He said he was getting annoyed by all the people speculating that he wasn’t coming back,”

Who? NBDL scouts?

**Buehler445** · 03-25-2014, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

Eh... i wouldn't go that far. He's strong for a guard, and has the ability to develop a good shot... but he lacks any type of quickness that would put him into the top 5 category I would think..

On the flip side, he has a very large head.

I think his athletic ability is similar to Marcus Smart but isn't nearly the polished player. Although his shot is better.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 03-25-2014, 05:44 PM

Selden is not even in the same realm as quickness goes. Strength? I'll accept that.

Wayne's head is far superior so we can call it a wash, I guess.

**Buehler445** · 03-25-2014, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

Selden is not even in the same realm as quickness goes. Strength? I'll accept that.

Wayne's head is far superior so we can call it a wash, I guess.

I'm not sure hes any slower than Smart. he kept up with Smart on defense. But Smart definitely plays the game faster than Selden.

Silock · 03-25-2014, 07:29 PM

Selden is very quick. He just seemed slow compared to Wiggins.

I think next year, he will appear to be much faster 1) because Wiggins won't be there to compare to, and 2) he'll be able to make decisions much more quickly, which makes him seem quicker.

KC_Connection · 03-25-2014, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

No.

Yes. Raw ability is there. Just needs the opportunity, which he'll get next year. Another year of developing his game will be huge.

KC_Connection · 03-25-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I'm not sure hes any slower than Smart. he kept up with Smart on defense. But Smart definitely plays the game faster than Selden.

Smart's defense is on a different level and he can get to the rim at will. He's also a much better playmaker and plays with a ridiculous level of intensity (while Selden's energy level was very inconsistent). Selden has shown flashes of being able to do all of those things well, though. That's why he would have been potentially a 1st round pick this year.

Pants · 03-25-2014, 07:51 PM

Selden was a blue chip recruit for a reason. He is a freak.

**Buehler445** · 03-25-2014, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Smart's defense is on a different level and he can get to the rim at will. He's also a much better playmaker and plays with a ridiculous level of intensity (while Selden's energy level was very inconsistent). Selden has shown flashes of being able to do all of those things well, though. That's why he would have been potentially a 1st round pick this year.

I didn't chart all of it all or anything, but I don't recall Smart getting to the rim when Selden was guarding him. That's where I got that he has comparable quickness.

I agree that Smart's defense, particularly his anticipation, is far and away better than Selden's, but Selden's on the ball defense is pretty dang good.

To me, though, Selden's biggest problem is that he didn't show the want to for smoking some chump and getting to the rim. Hopefully he can reflect on what Wiggins was able to do, and apply it to himself. Hopefully he can take some initiative and demolish some dudes and get himself paid (after he wins the national championship).

Prison Bitch · 03-25-2014, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Selden was a blue chip recruit for a reason. He is a freak.

Was. The guy we saw in the all star exhibitions attacking the rim ferociously was the guy who shied away from contact on three different drives Sunday. He needs to drive hard all the way and convert those. Maybe he was tired or maybe he was nervous. Hopefully next year he gets back to being the beast at the basket.

KC_Connection · 03-25-2014, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Selden was a blue chip recruit for a reason. He is a freak.

Yes, sometimes it just takes time for some skilled guys to reach their potential. We're lucky he's going to be doing it at KU next year.

**Buehler445** · 03-25-2014, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yes, sometimes it just takes time for some skilled guys to reach their potential. We're lucky he's going to be doing it at KU next year.

This. I'm excited to watch him next year. If he can get more aggressive off the bounce and continue his good shooting, he can be a man machine.

DJay23 · 03-25-2014, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

The quest for 11 straight Conference Championships!

New Players
Hunter Mickelson - F Transfer
Cliff Alexander - 5 Star C
Kelly Oubre - 5 Star F/G

Recruiting
Myles Turner - 5 Star C - Rumor is he will come in once Embiid declares.

Expected Players Lost
Tarik Black - Graduation
Andrew Wiggins - NBA Draft
Joel Embiid - NBA Draft
Justin Wesley - Graduation
Niko Roberts - Graduation
Christian Garrett - Graduation

Returning Starters
Naadir Tharpe - G - Senior
Wayne Selden, Jr. - G - Sophmore
Perry Ellis - F - Junior

Christian Garrett is a junior this season.

saphojunkie · 03-25-2014, 11:52 PM

Freshman Smart > Freshman Selden > Sophomore Smart.

That's how I see it, if I get to pick one for my team.

CoMoChief · 03-26-2014, 12:04 AM

PG-Tharpe
SG-Selden
SF-Greene
PF-Ellis
C-Embiid

PG-Mason
PG/SG-Frankamp
SF-Oubre
PF-Traylor
PF-Alexander

03-23-2014, 02:07 PM
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03-25-2014, 05:44 PM	#183
Fansy the Famous Bard I'm with the Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $-1013560	Selden is not even in the same realm as quickness goes. Strength? I'll accept that. Wayne's head is far superior so we can call it a wash, I guess. __________________ Hi.
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03-25-2014, 07:29 PM	#185
Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10020882	Selden is very quick. He just seemed slow compared to Wiggins. I think next year, he will appear to be much faster 1) because Wiggins won't be there to compare to, and 2) he'll be able to make decisions much more quickly, which makes him seem quicker.
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