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Old 03-25-2014, 06:00 AM  
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Fisher to LT?
@AdamSchefter: Chiefs HC Andy Reid said he plans to go to camp this summer with former No. 1 overall pick Eric Fisher playing left tackle.

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Old 03-25-2014, 10:16 PM   #406
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They also don't grasp the concept of being unable to draft a franchise QB with a top 5 pick when there aren't franchise QBs in the draft.

2009: "We have to draft a QB in the first round!"

Stafford was unavailable, because he went at 1.1. Here's what was left. Choose wisely.

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It's too bad we passed on Jimmy Clausen....
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:20 PM   #407
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They also don't grasp the concept of being unable to draft a franchise QB with a top 5 pick when there aren't franchise QBs in the draft.

2009: "We have to draft a QB in the first round!"

Stafford was unavailable, because he went at 1.1. Here's what what left. Choose wisely.

Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
Pat White
Stephen McGee
Rhett Bomar
Nate Davis
Mike Teel
Keith Null
Curtis Painter
Julian Edelman
The Chiefs are QB geniuses for avoiding all those busts!
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:20 PM   #408
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It's too bad we passed on Jimmy Clausen....
Aren't you the guy who started the "We should have drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of Derrick Johnson" thread?
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:22 PM   #409
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Pretty much inevitable as soon as he was drafted, much less after Albert walked.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:23 PM   #410
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60 million for Cassel was the smart choice!
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:23 AM   #411
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They also don't grasp the concept of being unable to draft a franchise QB with a top 5 pick when there aren't franchise QBs in the draft.

2009: "We have to draft a QB in the first round!"

Stafford was unavailable, because he went at 1.1. Here's what was left. Choose wisely.

Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
Pat White
Stephen McGee
Rhett Bomar
Nate Davis
Mike Teel
Keith Null
Curtis Painter
Julian Edelman
And if we draft Mark Sanchez we are at the same place we are now as we did with Tyson Jackson.

It makes no difference. That's why people hate the Fisher pick. Not because they want him to fail, but because we will get about 5 years of average to good JAG play then he will go sign for 5/40 million to some random team and we start the process all over again, with nothing to show for it.

Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Eric Fisher. These top in the trenches guys have been yielding the same results for the Chiefs the last ten years. They are NFL starters that can hold their position, but they aren't going to impact or win us any games, so what's the ****ing point?

When we pick there we don't get a JJ Watt or Orlando Pace at the position, we just get a typical NFL starter. woo hoo
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:54 AM   #412
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Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Eric Fisher. These top in the trenches guys have been yielding the same results for the Chiefs the last ten years. They are NFL starters that can hold their position, but they aren't going to impact or win us any games, so what's the ****ing point?
And while we're wasting top 10 picks on these JAG's that can barely hold their ground we're passing on playmakers and franchise QB's taken 5 or 10 picks below...
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Old 03-26-2014, 06:27 AM   #413
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Aren't you the guy who started the "We should have drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of Derrick Johnson" thread?
Yes, absolutely. Not sure what you're getting at here, but I originally created that thread around his first NFL start. So it could have been a boom or bust thread.
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With a right-handed QB is you have a average (on his best day!!) RT, hide him by moving him to LT! Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket... But whatever you do, don't ever admit that he might have been a busted #1 draft pick at a "non-skills" position.

All we can hope for is that he's spending HUGE sums of the #1 coin he got trying to beat the PED system so he can go full-on gorilla in the weight room for the few years before he's caught.
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And if we draft Mark Sanchez we are at the same place we are now as we did with Tyson Jackson.

It makes no difference. That's why people hate the Fisher pick. Not because they want him to fail, but because we will get about 5 years of average to good JAG play then he will go sign for 5/40 million to some random team and we start the process all over again, with nothing to show for it.

Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Eric Fisher. These top in the trenches guys have been yielding the same results for the Chiefs the last ten years. They are NFL starters that can hold their position, but they aren't going to impact or win us any games, so what's the ****ing point?

When we pick there we don't get a JJ Watt or Orlando Pace at the position, we just get a typical NFL starter. woo hoo
Dorsey was a good pick. Regardless of how he turned out for us.
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I think that is debatable. Also, why the **** are we talking about Geno? Did he go no. 2? If you want to be an obtuse malcontent at least compare fisher to joekel or Johnson for Christ's sake.
RunKC brought up Geno. Nobody else.
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I hope he sucks at lt so he can be a mediocre right tackle and then everyone will know how great right I am about how bad he sucks. This way my ego won't be hurt and the acceptance and craving that I've longed for for so long I will receive./CP
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They also don't grasp the concept of being unable to draft a franchise QB with a top 5 pick when there aren't franchise QBs in the draft.

2009: "We have to draft a QB in the first round!"

Stafford was unavailable, because he went at 1.1. Here's what was left. Choose wisely.

Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
Pat White
Stephen McGee
Rhett Bomar
Nate Davis
Mike Teel
Keith Null
Curtis Painter
Julian Edelman
Dude, you were ALL IN on MATT CASSEL.

You wanna play the hindsight game?
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With a right-handed QB is you have a average (on his best day!!) RT, hide him by moving him to LT! Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket... But whatever you do, don't ever admit that he might have been a busted #1 draft pick at a "non-skills" position.

All we can hope for is that he's spending HUGE sums of the #1 coin he got trying to beat the PED system so he can go full-on gorilla in the weight room for the few years before he's caught.
Jeez dude, this take is surprising coming from you because most times you know your shit; however, this time you dont. Way too early to write off Fish. Tell you what, are you right or left handed? Well write with the other one and see how that works for you...I dont care if you practiced a year, when you switch back to your normal writing hand, it will be easier for you and you will write better. Anyone who dismisses the change of position from LT to RTdoes not know what they're talking about. Its nearly impossible to accomplish and be as good at both, much less doing so in one's rookie season against the best competition on the planet. Bruce Mathews, arguably the best O-Lineman in NFL history, said Fish has all the tools to be a great LT. He knows a little something about O-Lineman, including first hand experience about being a high draft bust. So when he talks about O-lineman and their talents, I'd believe him...
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It's way to soon to say he was/is a bust, that's ridiculous.

No one here is saying they hope the guy fails, that's also ridiculous. Saying he collectively wasn't very good last year and voicing concerns over whether he will ever be this or that, isn't the same as wanting the guy to suck.

And lastly, just because said qb or player buster elsewhere, doesn't necessarily mean he shouldn't have been the pick here. Situations and circumstances are different everywhere
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