Gas on the Fire: Shutdown Corner Gives Chiefs "F" in FA.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That's ridiculous. They were up against the cap last year, are up against the cap this year, and will probably end up against the cap next year too. The claim that they are cheap is ridiculous. You really think that teams are magically spending money that never counts against the cap? The only true measure of how much a team is actually spending is their yearly cap number.

I thought we rolled over about 14 mill in unused cap space from 2012 on to the 2013 salary cap?????

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I thought we rolled over about 14 mill in unused cap space from 2012 on to the 2013 salary cap?????

And despite the rollover, we are near our cap limit. Therefore, between the two years, we were basically at the cap both years on average. Oops edit. We have spent more in two years than average.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And despite the rollover, we are near our cap limit. Therefore, between the two years, we were basically at the cap both years on average.

But the Chiefs will be about $7.5 million under the salary cap when the league year begins on March 12 because they have $14 million of unused cap space from the 2012 season to carry over into 2013. That effectively makes the Chiefs’ 2013 salary cap about $137 million.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/03/01...#storylink=cpy

7.5 mil sure isn't a lot by any means but it sure beats that 4.5 mil number that we supposedly have right now.

[salame]

Denver did an awful lot with 7.5 mil

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by O.city

Maybe they don't feel they need any free agents to make a run at the now.

And maybe they're flat out wrong, my deceased Grandparents as my witness I hope you're right... but the facts are that we are trying to not only replace known talent, but trying to improve upon them with a whole HOST of question marks.

I SURE hope Reids coaches have their pencils sharpened up and their overly tight coaches shorts well washed and ready to roll, because we're counting on a BUNCH of friggin nobodies to not only pick up the slack but to tighten it right now.

Just a crazy amount of pre-exisiting holes, turnovers and unknowns this year, anyone who's apprehensive right now is WELL within their rights.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by salame

Denver did an awful lot with 7.5 mil

That's because people still don't understand the difference (or perhaps don't care to because it shits on the Chiefs) between cap and cash.

You don't attract free agents by having a bunch of cap space. You attract them with upfront cash money. That doesn't always necessarily hit the cap in the first year of the contract.

The Chiefs have always been one of those teams reluctant to spend the cash. Considering the amount the Hunts spent last offseason, this year isn't surprising.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins

That's because people still don't understand the difference (or perhaps don't care to because it shits on the Chiefs) between cap and cash.

You don't attract free agents by having a bunch of cap space. You attract them with upfront cash money. That doesn't always necessarily hit the cap in the first year of the contract.

The Chiefs have always been one of those teams reluctant to spend the cash. Considering the amount the Hunts spent last offseason, this year isn't surprising.

C.R.E.A.M

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If we're not trying to take a serious run at "the now," why is Smith, given his cost and age, on this roster?

This. This. This. THIS.

[milkman]

I think too many people place far too much blame on Bob Sutton for the collapse in the second half of the season, while also failing to recognize the talent that is already in place, and failing to recognize how much the glaring weakness at FS impacted that talent's ability to perform, as well as Sutton's ability to make adjustment's.

Flowers and Sean Smith, both are guys that are far better in coverage when lining up tight and playing physical man at the snap.

Neither are that competent in off coverage.

Marcus Cooper is just learning, but showed he can play physical man, as well.
He didn't work at playing in off coverage, but with practice might grow into that role as well.

that being the case, early in the season, this defense thrived playing physical man from the snap, but over the course of the first half, teams began to see the glaring weakness that Kendrick Lewis was.

This secondary didn't get exposed because the Chiefs played better QBs.
It got exposed because teams adjusted and game planned to attack that weakness.

Guys like (what his name?) Jeff Tuel and Case Keenum took advantage of it.
Sutton adjusted by backing Flowers, Smith and Cooper off the line, essentially playing their weakness to take the big plays away.

It didn't work.

We have a talented core on the defense, and a competent free safety, not a great one you, but a competent one, would have a huge impact on this defense.

I have no issue with not persuing DeSean Jackson.

My issue is failing to persue a FS in free agency.

[BigMeatballDave]

Milk nails it.

Per usual.

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by milkman

I think too many people place far too much blame on Bob Sutton for the collapse in the second half of the season, while also failing to recognize the talent that is already in place, and failing to recognize how much the glaring weakness at FS impacted that talent's ability to perform, as well as Sutton's ability to make adjustment's.

Flowers and Sean Smith, both are guys that are far better in coverage when lining up tight and playing physical man at the snap.

Neither are that competent in off coverage.

Marcus Cooper is just learning, but showed he can play physical man, a


s well.
He didn't work at playing in off coverage, but with practice might grow into that role as well.

that being the case, early in the season, this defense thrived playing physical man from the snap, but over the course of the first half, teams began to see the glaring weakness that Kendrick Lewis was.

This secondary didn't get exposed because the Chiefs played better QBs.
It got exposed because teams adjusted and game planned to attack that weakness.

Guys like (what his name?) Jeff Tuel and Case Keenum took advantage of it.
Sutton adjusted by backing Flowers, Smith and Cooper off the line, essentially playing their weakness to take the big plays away.

It didn't work.

We have a talented core on the defense, and a competent free safety, not a great one you, but a competent one, would have a huge impact on this defense.

I have no issue with not persuing DeSean Jackson.

My issue is failing to persue a FS in free agency.

This.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

7.5 mil sure isn't a lot by any means but it sure beats that 4.5 mil number that we supposedly have right now.

Come on man. Seriously?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by scott free

Just a crazy amount of pre-exisiting holes, turnovers and unknowns this year, anyone who's apprehensive right now is WELL within their rights.

You're ridiculous. Stop bitching.

[dannybcaitlyn]

I put all the blame of the 2nd half of the season on sutton. He did everthing wrong, from not rotating players on the line to not benching lewis. Flowers must be playing with injury most of the season because it was a down year for him. If anyone should be able to play off a receiver it should have been him, with the tampa 2 scheme he was brought into by Herm. Now th FO doesn't address the need for FS, but elect to resign abbdulah who they thought wasnt good enough to take lewis spot after lewis is exposed. Sutton just sat idle with him week after week. **** him! At least we would have thrown abbdulah in there we would know if the guy is actually capable of playing FS.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

I put all the blame of the 2nd half of the season on sutton. He did everthing wrong, from not rotating players on the line to not benching lewis. Flowers must be playing with injury most of the season because it was a down year for him. If anyone should be able to play off a receiver it should have been him, with the tampa 2 scheme he was brought into by Herm. Now th FO doesn't address the need for FS, but elect to resign abbdulah who they thought wasnt good enough to take lewis spot after lewis is exposed. Sutton just sat idle with him week after week. **** him! At least we would have thrown abbdulah in there we would know if the guy is actually capable of playing FS.

Andy Reid is the head coach. You can't blame Sutton for not benching Lewis and not implicitly also blame Reid.