Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-05-2014, 07:40 AM  
'Hamas' Jenkins 'Hamas' Jenkins is offline
Now you've pissed me off!
 
'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7139572
Gas on the Fire: Shutdown Corner Gives Chiefs "F" in FA.

Posts: 75,083
'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 11:47 AM   #346
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is online now
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $-1755503
The chiefs as a whole went into a shell. The offense played a ridiculously conservative protect the lead strategy I'm the second half. The defense completely cut their first half strategy and played unbelievably conservative.

Sutton is a concern. But a lot of the defensive collapse had Andys fingerprints on it. It sure seems like the team as a whole went over conservative to protect the lead. Which again calls into question if his game management is a major liability we should worry about.
Posts: 51,669
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 11:48 AM   #347
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is online now
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $-1755503
Quote:
Originally Posted by Douche Baggins View Post
You sure love those Chiefs, huh?
I have been very critical of their 2013 offseason. But nice try.
Posts: 51,669
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:20 PM   #348
TheUte TheUte is offline
Veteran
 
TheUte's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Casino cash: $10014498
With what has happened so far, I just don't understand the Alex smith trade.

It's almost like there is no plan at all.
Posts: 1,245
TheUte 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTheUte 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTheUte 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTheUte 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTheUte 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTheUte 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTheUte 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTheUte 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTheUte 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTheUte 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTheUte 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:27 PM   #349
Discuss Thrower Discuss Thrower is offline
"You like to drink?"
 
Discuss Thrower's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: "I like to drink."
Casino cash: $-370000
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheUte View Post
With what has happened so far, I just don't understand the Alex smith trade.

It's almost like there is no plan at all.
The football equivalent to the Battlestar Galactica finale.
__________________
Chiefs 2016 Opponents:
Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT
Chiefs 2017 Opponents:
Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
Posts: 45,263
Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:29 PM   #350
mcaj22 mcaj22 is offline
MVP
 
mcaj22's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2010
Casino cash: $10014454
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower View Post
The football equivalent to the Battlestar Galactica finale.
lol perfect
Posts: 11,886
mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.mcaj22 wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:36 PM   #351
WhiteWhale WhiteWhale is offline
Bring it on Ahab!
 
WhiteWhale's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Doo-Dah
Casino cash: $10015152
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman View Post
Phisophically, I agree with the build through the draft approach.

However, I can not support the mixed approach that the two off seasons have entailed.

Building through the draft behind trading two premium picks for a 29 year old QB is limiting any potential window.

When the pieces you are adding in this draft are ready, Smith and other pieces you already have in place will be hitting the end of their windows.

These contradictory moves are almost assuredly setting this franchise up for an endless cycle of mediocrity.
Your logic is sound, but I don't entirely agree.

This idea that you have to do one or the other is bad, and the average 'youth movement' is a stupid garbage philosophy that rarely bears fruit. Look at what Herm did. He got talented players and built entirely with youth and the result was a team that simply could not figure out how to win.

To build a good team, good franchises use all avenues available to them. I don't feel that losing two 2nd round picks is a back breaker moving forward. I cannot look at the guys who were available and think we're be further along with Geno Smith or Matt Barkley.

Alex Smith brought a stabilizing presence to a team that has been in total flux at QB since Trent Green left. Now I'd much prefer to find that guy who can start for us until 2030, but I don't really want to sit through 3-4 more 2-14 seasons waiting for us to get him. I don't like playing for draft position. That's what perpetually shitty teams do (except the Colts, who tanked in the right season). Mediocrity is better than being a gutter team, like the Lions or modern Raiders. The chances of making a leap are much better.

It doesn't take a decade to improve.

Last edited by WhiteWhale; 04-06-2014 at 12:45 PM..
Posts: 14,861
WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:39 PM   #352
Messier Messier is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Casino cash: $10005050
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheUte View Post
With what has happened so far, I just don't understand the Alex smith trade.

It's almost like there is no plan at all.
Why do so many people act like the team has been gutted?
Posts: 7,610
Messier 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMessier 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMessier 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMessier 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMessier 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMessier 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMessier 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMessier 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMessier 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMessier 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMessier 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:47 PM   #353
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is offline
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $810478
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messier View Post
Why do so many people act like the team has been gutted?
Because of the blood everywhere?
Posts: 297,432
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:50 PM   #354
Discuss Thrower Discuss Thrower is offline
"You like to drink?"
 
Discuss Thrower's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: "I like to drink."
Casino cash: $-370000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messier View Post
Why do so many people act like the team has been gutted?
It was a thin roster on Jan 4, 2014.

It is much more so now.
__________________
Chiefs 2016 Opponents:
Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT
Chiefs 2017 Opponents:
Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
Posts: 45,263
Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.Discuss Thrower is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:55 PM   #355
WhiteWhale WhiteWhale is offline
Bring it on Ahab!
 
WhiteWhale's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Doo-Dah
Casino cash: $10015152
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower View Post
It was a thin roster on Jan 4, 2014.

It is much more so now.
KC has not lost anything I find particularly vital. The only guy I'd have like to have kept is Schwartz, and it's not like that's a game changer.
Posts: 14,861
WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:56 PM   #356
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is offline
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $810478
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale View Post
KC has not lost anything I find particularly vital.
Yeah a top 10 LT is no big deal.
Posts: 297,432
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:57 PM   #357
WhiteWhale WhiteWhale is offline
Bring it on Ahab!
 
WhiteWhale's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Doo-Dah
Casino cash: $10015152
Quote:
Originally Posted by Douche Baggins View Post
Yeah a top 10 LT is no big deal.
How did our offense perform in the games Albert missed as opposed to the games he played in?

When a guy doesn't play and the offense performs at the same level, that's a sign he's not too vital. LT is not as important as it used to be.
Posts: 14,861
WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:59 PM   #358
TEX TEX is offline
Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police
 
TEX's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Galveston, TX
Casino cash: $-1436873
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale View Post
Your logic is sound, but I don't entirely agree.

This idea that you have to do one or the other is bad, and the average 'youth movement' is a stupid garbage philosophy that rarely bears fruit. Look at what Herm did. He got talented players and built entirely with youth and the result was a team that simply could not figure out how to win.

To build a good team, good franchises use all avenues available to them. I don't feel that losing two 2nd round picks is a back breaker moving forward. I cannot look at the guys who were available and think we're be further along with Geno Smith or Matt Barkley.

Alex Smith brought a stabilizing presence to a team that has been in total flux at QB since Trent Green left. Now I'd much prefer to find that guy who can start for us until 2030, but I don't really want to sit through 3-4 more 2-14 seasons waiting for us to get him. I don't like playing for draft position. That's what perpetually shitty teams do (except the Colts, who tanked in the right season). Mediocrity is better than being a gutter team, like the Lions or modern Raiders. The chances of making a leap are much better.

It doesn't take a decade to improve.
__________________
"Do we have time to run
WASP?"
Posts: 37,103
TEX has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 12:59 PM   #359
WhiteWhale WhiteWhale is offline
Bring it on Ahab!
 
WhiteWhale's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Doo-Dah
Casino cash: $10015152
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEX View Post
You forgot to flail your wrists and cut yourself.

Drama queens bein' dramatic.
Posts: 14,861
WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.WhiteWhale is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2014, 01:00 PM   #360
TEX TEX is offline
Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police
 
TEX's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Galveston, TX
Casino cash: $-1436873
Quote:
Originally Posted by Douche Baggins View Post
Yeah a top 10 LT is no big deal.
That you think B.A. was a top 10 LT.
__________________
"Do we have time to run
WASP?"
Posts: 37,103
TEX has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:19 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.