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Game of Thrones *Spoiler* Thread
There's been some recent confusion with the old spoiler thread, so I'm kicking off a new one for tonight's premiere. This is going to be the one for folks who've read all the books. So anything anybody might want to talk about is in bounds. Suffice to say, if you haven't read the books, you'll probably want to stay out of here until you do...
I'll bump the old spoiler-free thread shortly in case anybody's interested. For future reference the link to that one is here |
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05-06-2014, 09:52 AM | #1921 |
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Seriously? Is that the best you got? That's flat terrible, and I suspect you know it. Quote:
You find her conduct/personality to be consistent with what she was like when she was alive? I pretty much don't. Her treatment of Brienne, especially, seemed very unCatlike. Quote:
Though I think he's generally characterized as a good guy, it's more that he's not an evil/bad guy, rather than being actually "good". His redeeming features are relatively few and far between. All that said, I've come to the conclusion that you're either completely whacky in general, or at least have a very, very odd view of these characters. Think about it, you're sitting here defending Cercei and demonizing Cat. Strange....at best. Agree to disagree I guess.
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05-06-2014, 10:24 AM | #1923 |
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That made they Freys mad, which did give Bolton an opportunity to betray them. However, Bolton would have found an opportunity to betray them sooner or later for his own benefit. Robb's wedding only sped it up.
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05-06-2014, 10:37 AM | #1924 |
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You'd have to be pretty deranged to deify Cersei and demonize Catelyn.
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05-06-2014, 10:41 AM | #1925 | |
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After how she treated those outside her own circle when she was alive (Petyr Baelish, Jon, Tyrion) I don't find it inconsistent for her to act the way she does after a traumatic event. She does whatever she feels is necessary to protect her children, and at this point that means ridding the world of as many Freys and Lannisters as she can. Remember, she only hung Brienne because Brienne refused to kill THE Lannister. Hey, know who else does whatever she feels is necessary to protect her children? I'm not trying to defend Cersei and demonize Catelyn, I just feel they're pretty much the same. If Catelyn had access to her own Qyburn, and felt that giving him people she didn't care about to experiment with would help protect her kids, do you think she would shy away from it? |
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Unless you're arguing that after having what she thinks is her last son executed in front of her at his wedding feast, then having her own throat cut, then laying dead in a river for three days, then getting resurrected as an undead creature could perhaps twist her into something some small degree as vile as Cersei, then yes, I might agree. |
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errr...yes, actually. Pointless debate. I don't think 1 in 100 fans would agree with you on this to be honest.
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05-06-2014, 11:34 AM | #1929 |
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Yes. Littlefinger's another character with zero redeeming qualities.
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05-06-2014, 11:41 AM | #1932 |
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Your misperception is that Cersei's actions actually have anything to do with a genuine motherly love for her children. Everything she does comes from selfish motives.
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Cersei tried to make her marriage work as well. She was not as lucky in who she was married to. |
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Realistically, her ability to love a monster like Joffrey is testament to her motherhood, IMO. |
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