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Old 04-16-2003, 11:26 PM  
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Official Laker-Hater Championship thread. Whining encouraged!!

Leave it to the JailBlazers to tank their game against the lowly Clippers to avoid meeting the San Antonio Spurs in their bracket.

Leave it to the 3-Time Champs to exude class by whomping up on the lowly Warriors to secure the #5 seed and eventually match-up with the Spurs in the next round.

That "whoosh" you hear is from the Cowtown Euros as they get a cakewalk to the Western Finals by playing the Utah Greybeards and then the defenseless Cuban Cigars.

The Staples Crew will EASILY dispatch those toothless T-Cubs before a BIG match-up against the Boot Accessorizors. This will be a huge test for the Champs but they will eventually prevail before the long awaited match-up with the Farmers.

Once past the Spurs, the Lakers will throttle the Kings and send that franchise reeling. Rumor has it that Brittney Spears is already scoping out Mark Madsen for a date to the NBA Finals.

Unlike the Detroit Red Wings complete choke job in this years NHL Finals, the Big Aristolte has his crew all primed for a Quatro.

Long live the Lakers dynasty and their loyal fans.

Long live the venomous hatred of those unfortunate souls who continue to slander this great organization.

As Kobe said tonight in the post game interview;

"It's time to dance, baby!"
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Old 05-17-2003, 01:32 PM   #406
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and "if they improve their talent" they'll be back? Yeah... and if they'd scored more point than the Spurs they'd still be playing.

I'd venture to say if the Clippers were to "improve their talent" they'd be a better team than they are as well....
The Clips, and every team in the league, don't have Shaq and Kobe. You give Shaq and Kobe better talent around them, they'll win again, and again. It's not the same thing, because no other team has those two players.
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Old 05-17-2003, 01:34 PM   #407
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The Clips, and every team in the league, don't have Shaq and Kobe. You give Shaq and Kobe better talent around them, they'll win again, and again. It's not the same thing, because no other team has those two players.
So Oprah, when are you going to have your thread about them being abused as children? I mean that would help explain there folding under pressure
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Old 05-17-2003, 01:37 PM   #408
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The Clips, and every team in the league, don't have Shaq and Kobe. You give Shaq and Kobe better talent around them, they'll win again, and again. It's not the same thing, because no other team has those two players.
agreed... my point is that they had the talent.

Maybe if they hadn't treated the regular season like a half-assed scrimage... and Shaq wasn't 30 lbs over-weight... and they hadn't lost their fire.... etc etc

They got fat and happy. The only reason I was rooting agianst them was the fact that they (or their fans at least) acted like the championship was owed to them.
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Old 05-17-2003, 01:38 PM   #409
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btw... why weren't the "Lake Show" fans complaining about this lack of talent before they got punked by 30 on their own floor?
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Old 05-17-2003, 01:40 PM   #410
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So Oprah, when are you going to have your thread about them being abused as children? I mean that would help explain there folding under pressure
They didn't fold under pressure, IMO. They couldn't carry the team. No one was helping them out. It was like 2 on 5 basketball out there for most of the playoffs and the regular season this year. They will improve the supporting cast, and then watch out.

You wanna find out more?...then tune into next Thursday's Oprah.
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Old 05-17-2003, 01:44 PM   #411
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They didn't fold under pressure, IMO. They couldn't carry the team. No one was helping them out. It was like 2 on 5 basketball out there for most of the playoffs and the regular season this year. They will improve the supporting cast, and then watch out.

You wanna find out more?...then tune into next Thursday's Oprah.
I suspect you're right... what was Horry.. like 3 for 30-something in the playoffs?

They just came off as prima donas... and I was happy to see 'em get slapped back down to earth. Hell, look at the title of this thread? Don't you think you Laker fans had a little of this comin'?

all in good fun though, Code...
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Old 05-17-2003, 01:49 PM   #412
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I suspect you're right... what was Horry.. like 3 for 30-something in the playoffs?

They just came off as prima donas... and I was happy to see 'em get slapped back down to earth. Hell, look at the title of this thread? Don't you think you Laker fans had a little of this comin'?

all in good fun though, Code...
I agree that the Lakers were overconfident. Almost like denial, or something. Shaq and Kobe (and the front office) thought they could carry that team. They got a wake up call. They can't do it on their own anymore.
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Old 05-17-2003, 05:37 PM   #413
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I don't think it will be quite that easy Cal......

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2. Kobe and Shaq get to spend a Summer fielding questions about why they have to carry the Lakers EVERY season. Next thing you know, the Lakers pick up a bonafide power forward (not Karl Malone.....PULLLEEEZZEE!!) along with a legitimate back-up center to spell The Daddy for 10 minutes a game.

........ with the retirement of David Robinson the spurs have mucho money to spend also.

The Spurs should be given credit for fielding a roster that was put together specifically to beat the Lakers. Robinson, Rose and Willis gave them 18 fouls to use each game on Shaq.
Parker is better than any guard on the Lakers roster. Ginobilli played some very good basketball, Bowen had Bryant crying to the officials from the opening whistle of Game 1 with his chest to chest defense.
The Lakers will need somebody at the point to clamp down on Parker. That's in addition to finding a PF. Will they have the $ to do that and stay under the cap?
The Surs will likely keep Rose and maybe Willis will return too. There was an interesting thought of them signing Jermaine O'neal which would again put the Lakers behind the eight ball talent wise.

Anyway all this speculation and the Spurs have yet to win the West. Although they are prohibitive favorites there is still a long way to go.
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Robinson, Rose and Willis gave them 18 fouls to use each game on Shaq.
Precisely what I spoke with Jim earlier this year on how to beat O'Neal - use the old Chicago Bulls tactic of using 3 players in rotation to get the fouling necessary to make a player less effectual than he actually is.

Something which Jim stated (if I remember right) would never work as Phil should know how to counter such strategy since he incorporated it so well.
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Old 05-18-2003, 08:54 AM   #415
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Precisely what I spoke with Jim earlier this year on how to beat O'Neal - use the old Chicago Bulls tactic of using 3 players in rotation to get the fouling necessary to make a player less effectual than he actually is.

Something which Jim stated (if I remember right) would never work as Phil should know how to counter such strategy since he incorporated it so well.
Obviously you weren't paying too much attention to the NBA right?

The Hack-A-Shaq was created by Don Nelson (not Jackson) when O'Neal was clanking FTs miserable earleir in his career. That all went out the window as Diesel's FTs rose above 62% and went even higher down the stretch in the 4th quarter.

Factor in the other Lakers who could stroll the the charity stripe after 5 team fouls made this a non-issue.

There is no strategy to "beat" Shaq. You design a defense that linits his supporting cast from going off. Shaq had plenty of touches in Game #6 because (are you following here?)...

Popovich didn't want the other role players to get into a rhythm by hoisting open jumpers.

The Spurs were able to play Shaq AND Kobe one-on-one
this series. THAT was what turned the tables and not 18 fouls to waste on Diesel.

But then, you "precisely" figured that out?
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Old 05-18-2003, 10:17 AM   #416
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btw... why weren't the "Lake Show" fans complaining about this lack of talent before they got punked by 30 on their own floor?
Look deeper in this thread, I said the lack of talent was going to due them in.
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The Lakers got OLD fast. No way they come out on top in the West. The Timberwolves, Kings, Spurs, and Mavs can take them out. Shoot, Shaq got schooled by Yao a few days ago. That wasn't supposed to happen yet...

But WHO the F cares anyway as it's only the NBA...
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