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Old 06-13-2014, 01:01 PM  
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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.
He's a Charger now.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:53 PM   #136
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Cooper fell to pieces so badly that they started him as the #3 corner in the playoff game and he played well. Yeeeaaaa. Also, there's no way he is going to get better, right? I mean, he's already been playing the CB position for what, 3 years now including last season? He's as good as he's ever going to be with that whole 2 years of college experience and 1 year of NFL experience playing the CB position.
Putting him in over Dunta Robinson and Ron Parker doesn't say a whole lot.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:54 PM   #137
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Cooper is Trash.

Our secondary which was formidable just a few seasons ago has been nerfed into the Warfield/Bartee era.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:55 PM   #138
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:55 PM   #139
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Cooper can't handle the perimeter. He proved that last season. He was good against QB's who telegraphed come back routes.

When a decent QB actually challenged him in went into Bartee mode. Have you forgotten how embarrassed he was?

Owens was brought in to cover the slot, not Gaines.
Again, Cooper was a project to begin with. He's only going to get better and you can expect improvements over this off-season in his technique. If you were the Jets, would you give up on Dee Milliner after the way he played last year? Hell no. News Flash, Cooper was twice the CB that Milliner was for the Jets last season. He was arguably the best rookie CB in the league last season. You don't expect any improvements in his game? Really? Expecially given the fact that he only played 2 years at CB in college and was a very raw prospect coming out?

Yeah, ok. The sky is falling and we have nobody at CB.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:58 PM   #140
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Again, Cooper was a project to begin with. He's only going to get better and you can expect improvements over this off-season in his technique. If you were the Jets, would you give up on Dee Milliner after the way he played last year? Hell no. News Flash, Cooper was twice the CB that Milliner was for the Jets last season. He was arguably the best rookie CB in the league last season. You don't expect any improvements in his game? Really? Expecially given the fact that he only played 2 years at CB in college and was a very raw prospect coming out?

Yeah, ok. The sky is falling and we have nobody at CB.
I don't expect much improvement, no. Just because he has another season under his belt doesn't mean he's improved.

Milliner? You're going to compare a 1st round pick to an UDFA?

Look, you're putting all your faith in hope. Could he get better? Certainly? That doesn't mean he WILL get better. For every player that gets better, there's a handful who don't and another handfull that get worse.

The only thing that Cooper proved last year was that he has a looong way to go.
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eh, that's business in the nfl...i'm kind of glad we seem less sentimental now

we got his best years (or 80% of them)...i'm sure he has a couple of decent years left, but those aren't worth the 7 mill savings

Hali's probably next unless he restructures next year
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... He was arguably the best rookie CB in the league last season....
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eh, that's business in the nfl...i'm kind of glad we seem less sentimental now

we got his best years (or 80% of them)...i'm sure he has a couple of decent years left, but those aren't worth the 7 mill savings

Hali's probably next unless he restructures next year
Right. I don't disagree.

The problem i have is that the cupboard is bare.
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So we freed up $7.5 mil this year and next year to apply to the Houston and\or Smith re-signings. I have no problems with this. Flowers was a great CB when healthy but the last 2 years he was constantly nagged with injuries and it slowed him down. Good luck to him wherever he ends up.
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