Chiefs Brandon Flowers done - Page 23

OldSchool · 09:35 PM

Just want to say thanks to the Hunt family for the 6years in Kansas City thanks to the fans and my teammates for some great years.
— Brandon Flowers (@BFlowers24) June 13, 2014

Sounds like Brandon Flowers has just been traded or released.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

Sounds like Brandon Flowers is out. Stay tuned
— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) June 13, 2014

Detroit - a rumored destination for Brandon Flowers - just released Chris Houston, too.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

The #Chiefs have announced they’ve released cornerback Brandon Flowers.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
Related: Texans, Chiefs
Jun 13 - 3:04 PM

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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.

He's a Charger now.

fairladyZ · 06-13-2014, 07:16 PM

Lets be honest. I loved BFLOW as much as anyone but he's had his best years. He was great and very aggressive early in his career but now a days the receivers are getting bigger and faster and he's not growing and his body is breaking down. His kness are pretty much shot, he's lost a step and isn't as aggressive as he once was. And on top of that the money was ridiculous. Father time is catching up with him at an alarming pace and the game is leaving him behind unfortunately. I would have loved if they could have reworked his deal but I doubt that he would, and doubt that we even wanted to.

DTLB58 · 06-13-2014, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Could play outside and inside and playing well outside or inside are 2 far different things.

Flowers got handed by big receivers outside, and was constantly trailing in the slot in a press man scheme.

People insist he's not a good fit because a year of game tapes last year show that he wasn't. He's not worth that price tag to the current Chiefs.

DTLB58 · 06-13-2014, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yuck. I'm not okay with this. I think Flowers was a target to be cut next year, but we got a lot weaker at CB and I don't feel that confident in Parker or Gaines or Owens to backfill nearly as well. I don't at all understand why we didn't get trade value out of him.

But oh well… I don't think we were going to compete this year anyway, and Flowers was a target for a massive pay cut soon anyway, so it's not the end of the world. Him being a nickel corner given fit with Sutton's scheme, he was definitely overpaid.

Plus, even if we didn't get trade comp… Albert and Flowers are both probably going to get us a 3rd round comp pick. So we did essentially get draft picks out of them.

Correct me if I'm wrong here but I don't think you get credit for or against for Post June 1, transactions as far as comp picks go.

**Ragged Robin** · 06-13-2014, 07:28 PM

He's a good player and guy but didn't fit in with Sutton's scheme and didn't play well at all last season while making a pretty outrageous wage for a demoted undersized Nickel corner. Good luck to him with his next team.

DTLB58 · 06-13-2014, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

How did he fix the safety position?

Addition by subtraction to start. Not bringing back Lewis and Demps.
Extending Abdullah and Commings coming back from injury. The FA rookie Sorensen.

Discuss Thrower · 06-13-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

And Dorsey addressed that.

Tried to.

The jury is most certainly still out on whether or not Walker, Bailey, Catapano and Ford can be effective rushers on a consistent basis.

**HemiEd** · 06-13-2014, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Rebuilding, get over it

to rebuild, you would have had to have built.

Oh wait, thats right, they got a wild card spot, its all good

OldSchool · 06-13-2014, 07:50 PM

We released a corner who gave up a 66.7 completion percentage when thrown at, QB rating of 103, over 800 yards, and 4 TDs.

Ohhhh nooooo, the sky is falling. The team is lost! We are rebuilding!

Cannibal · 06-13-2014, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Peyton and DT have a huge smile right now
— Scotty Payne (@Skotty_Payne) June 13, 2014

This tweet is stupid, lol. As if Flowers was ever capable of covering Thomas in this scheme. He couldn't even handle shutting down Welker.

Exactly. Peyton will shred regardless of the presence of Flowers.

DenverChief · 06-13-2014, 08:15 PM

I am so confused by this "Flowers was too small" and "Dorsey likes bigger CB's"....Flowers 5'11'' ....Owens 5'9''

Dragonocho · 06-13-2014, 08:16 PM

Meh. He was good for years 2 and 3 and fell off pretty quickly, when we let Carr go to Dallas and resigned him I thought we made a mistake. At the time I thought it was letting Carr go, but they both are past their best years, so meh. Overpriced player on a non- guaranteed contract, someone will overpay for his game tape.

Cannibal · 06-13-2014, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Wasting that entire ****ing '08 draft class. I ****ing hate this organization. Albert gone, Dorsey gone, Flowers gone, Carr gone. Charles only one left.

Dorsey sucked balls in KC and really hasn't done squat at all to justify his draft position. He was a total bust. I get tired of people still acting like he was worth a shit.

OldSchool · 06-13-2014, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I am so confused by this "Flowers was too small" and "Dorsey likes bigger CB's"....Flowers 5'11'' ....Owens 5'9''

5'11"? In what universe? Flowers is 5'9" with 4.55 speed and a 30" vertical.

**notorious** · 06-13-2014, 08:20 PM

I understand why people are gushing from their vagina over losing players that have been a part of so many championship teams.....

Wait, what?

Get a grip, gentlemen.

TEX · 06-13-2014, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I understand why people are gushing from their vagina over losing players that have been a part of so many championship teams.....

Wait, what?

Get a grip, gentlemen.

Hard to get a grip around NOTHING and that's what we got for him. IF the Chiefs were going to release him WHY did they wait till now and not use his $$$$ to re-sign / sign players? This off season has been one of the all time most pathetic in Chiefs history, and that says a lot. This is just par for the course.

06-13-2014, 07:16 PM	#331
fairladyZ Starter Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $6695234	Lets be honest. I loved BFLOW as much as anyone but he's had his best years. He was great and very aggressive early in his career but now a days the receivers are getting bigger and faster and he's not growing and his body is breaking down. His kness are pretty much shot, he's lost a step and isn't as aggressive as he once was. And on top of that the money was ridiculous. Father time is catching up with him at an alarming pace and the game is leaving him behind unfortunately. I would have loved if they could have reworked his deal but I doubt that he would, and doubt that we even wanted to.
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OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	We released a corner who gave up a 66.7 completion percentage when thrown at, QB rating of 103, over 800 yards, and 4 TDs. Ohhhh nooooo, the sky is falling. The team is lost! We are rebuilding! Last edited by OldSchool; 06-13-2014 at 07:58 PM..
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06-13-2014, 08:15 PM	#340
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	I am so confused by this "Flowers was too small" and "Dorsey likes bigger CB's"....Flowers 5'11'' ....Owens 5'9''
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06-13-2014, 08:16 PM	#341
Dragonocho Artist of the Bob Ross School Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lansing Casino cash: $10000533	Meh. He was good for years 2 and 3 and fell off pretty quickly, when we let Carr go to Dallas and resigned him I thought we made a mistake. At the time I thought it was letting Carr go, but they both are past their best years, so meh. Overpriced player on a non- guaranteed contract, someone will overpay for his game tape.
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06-13-2014, 08:20 PM	#344
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $-954116	I understand why people are gushing from their vagina over losing players that have been a part of so many championship teams..... Wait, what? Get a grip, gentlemen.
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