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Old 06-13-2014, 01:01 PM  
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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.
He's a Charger now.

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Old 06-13-2014, 09:04 PM   #361
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This is what the Pats have done for years. It's better to let go of these guys a year too early than a year too late.
Clay, once again your agenda is showing. Sometimes tough football decisions have to be made. That's what this was. You want to blame someone, blame Peehole E for letting Carr walk.
I happen to agree with this.

I'm hoping that Dorsey/Reid are able to replicate that type of talent evaluation, acquisition an management.
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:05 PM   #362
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This is what the Pats have done for years. It's better to let go of these guys a year too early than a year too late.
Clay, once again your agenda is showing. Sometimes tough football decisions have to be made. That's what this was. You want to blame someone, blame Peehole E for letting Carr walk.
Don't blame Pioli for that. Paying Carr 50mil was INSANE.
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:06 PM   #363
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This is what the Pats have done for years. It's better to let go of these guys a year too early than a year too late.
Clay, once again your agenda is showing. Sometimes tough football decisions have to be made. That's what this was. You want to blame someone, blame Peehole E for letting Carr walk.
Are people here really still trying to blame Pioli for not signing Carr to that deal? Hasn't watching Carr for the past 2 years been enough to stop with that nonsense?
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:08 PM   #364
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Should have tagged Carr and traded Flowers when he had some worth.
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:10 PM   #365
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Should have tagged Carr and traded Flowers when he had some worth.
Exactly.
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:15 PM   #366
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Yes. It was the only way to save the 7.5 mil this year. That money can go to Houston or Smith now. If they cut him early, they wouldn't have had that money.
So looks like I was correct and Jason was wrong after all...

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Old 06-13-2014, 09:21 PM   #367
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Are people here really still trying to blame Pioli for not signing Carr to that deal? Hasn't watching Carr for the past 2 years been enough to stop with that nonsense?
No. It was a bad deal. Pioli should have extended him and it would not have come to that. Instead, he chose to wait.
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:22 PM   #368
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The timing is wierd.

They either have agreed to something with Smith or Houston, or Flowers was asking to be cut and they granted his wish.
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:24 PM   #369
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:26 PM   #370
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The timing is wierd.

They either have agreed to something with Smith or Houston, or Flowers was asking to be cut and they granted his wish.
Flowers didn't like being relegated to the slot but he couldn't cover the perimeter effectively either. Played poorly last year and now decided not to show up for OTAs. He was asking to be cut.
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:28 PM   #371
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Flowers didn't like being relegated to the slot but he couldn't cover the perimeter effectively either. Played poorly last year and now decided not to show up for OTAs. He was asking to be cut.
If he was asking to be cut, it didn't happen until they shopped the shit out of him.

No one else wanted to take on the salary either.
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:32 PM   #372
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If he was asking to be cut, it didn't happen until they shopped the shit out of him.

No one else wanted to take on the salary either.
Yup, and he was due a $2 mil bonus if he reported to TC. No way that he was going to remain on the roster for much longer. He's going to go be the #3 CB for someone.
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So looks like I was correct and Jason was wrong after all...

You took his side, remember?
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The timing is wierd.

They either have agreed to something with Smith or Houston, or Flowers was asking to be cut and they granted his wish.
I think they're close with Houston. Hence the timing.
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I am so confused by this "Flowers was too small" and "Dorsey likes bigger CB's"....Flowers 5'11'' ....Owens 5'9''
Why is it assumed Owens will win the nickel job? There is a competition with no real big names. I like it that way because there is a job to win, no incumbent.

I like both DeMarcus Van Dyke and Gaines over Owens.. I'm not a Cooper fan, and I dont know anything about the other guy other than Seattle liked him a lot(grabbing secondary players Seattle likes but didnt have enough room for is not a bad idea)
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