Chiefs Brandon Flowers done - Page 29

OldSchool · 09:35 PM

Just want to say thanks to the Hunt family for the 6years in Kansas City thanks to the fans and my teammates for some great years.
— Brandon Flowers (@BFlowers24) June 13, 2014

Sounds like Brandon Flowers has just been traded or released.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

Sounds like Brandon Flowers is out. Stay tuned
— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) June 13, 2014

Detroit - a rumored destination for Brandon Flowers - just released Chris Houston, too.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

The #Chiefs have announced they’ve released cornerback Brandon Flowers.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
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Jun 13 - 3:04 PM

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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.

He's a Charger now.

**Dave Lane** · 06-14-2014, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

If only there'd been a deep WR draft class.

Wouldn't that have been awesome?

**Dave Lane** · 06-14-2014, 10:04 AM

Bottom line with cutting Flowers, the Chiefs got worse, period.

kcchiefsus · 06-14-2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Bottom line with cutting Flowers, the Chiefs got worse, period.

That's debatable.

**Dave Lane** · 06-14-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Someone cheaper, which we need to do given our cap situation.

I remember the good old days when Pioli had us $30 mill under the cap so we could sign some of the worst busts out there.

And the cornerbacks ahhhh Stanford Routt, Dunta Robinson, yep couldn't have used any of that money to extend Flowers and make his cap hit manageable. No sir.

**Dave Lane** · 06-14-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

That's debatable.

Nope.

-King- · 06-14-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Nope.

Why? The Chiefs could easily get someone to do what Flowers did last season. Be as good as Flowers in his prime? Probably not, but Flowers isn't in his prime anymore and doesn't fit in this defense. Team is no worse without him than they were last year.
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-King- · 06-14-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I remember the good old days when Pioli had us $30 mill under the cap so we could sign some of the worst busts out there.

And the cornerbacks ahhhh Stanford Routt, Dunta Robinson, yep couldn't have used any of that money to extend Flowers and make his cap hit manageable. No sir.

Pioli is the one who extended Flowers. And his cap hit would be manageable if he was still good.
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milkman · 06-14-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Why? The Chiefs could easily get someone to do what Flowers did last season. Be as good as Flowers in his prime? Probably not, but Flowers isn't in his prime anymore and doesn't fit in this defense. Team is no worse without him than they were last year.
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Until Parker, whose only real contributions were as a blitzer, or Owens, who was a jag on a bad defense, or Gaines steps up and replaces him, then this defense is worse without him.

That fact was illustrated in the playoff game.

-King- · 06-14-2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Until Parker, whose only real contributions were as a blitzer, or Owens, who was a jag on a bad defense, or Gaines steps up and replaces him, then this defense is worse without him.

That fact was illustrated in the playoff game.

Eh not really. Flowers played very well in the playoff game. But compared to the rest of the season, the good play was a fluke. Overall he was pretty terrible last year.
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milkman · 06-14-2014, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Eh not really. Flowers played very well in the playoff game. But compared to the rest of the season, the good play was a fluke. Overall he was pretty terrible last year.
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Flowers struggles last year due to a balky knee, which should be fully healed and ready for this season.

He will, I'm sure, battle some other injury, but unless it's a knee or a leg injury, which affects his quickness, the strength of his game, then he should be much the same player he was 2 years ago.

Until, and unless, one of those guys steps up, this team is worse without him.

mcaj22 · 06-14-2014, 10:37 AM

yea but you're putting all your eggs in a basket on an unknown rookie in Gaines, 1 year sample of Marcus Cooper, and Sean Smith who just got a DUI so he's going to be suspended at some point.

This is no different than what they did with the o-line. Tons of inexperience and unknowns. Where between what will be our three CBs playing the most snaps, they have a total of 6 years NFL experience. That's playing with fire.

**RealSNR** · 06-14-2014, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

yea but you're putting all your eggs in a basket on an unknown rookie in Gaines, 1 year sample of Marcus Cooper, and Sean Smith who just got a DUI so he's going to be suspended at some point.

This is no different than what they did with the o-line. Tons of inexperience and unknowns. Where between what will be our three CBs playing the most snaps, they have a total of 6 years NFL experience. That's playing with fire.

The team is clearly counting on Ron Parker and Marcus Cooper as legit starters. They're great young depth guys with some real promising talents, but I'm nervous as **** entering the season with those two if Smith gets suspended.

If Flowers getting cut gives us the money to handle all of our extensions to players, then I guess we have to roll the dice a bit and make it happen. But I think this happened one year too early. I don't like it.

Dunerdr · 06-14-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

yea but you're putting all your eggs in a basket on an unknown rookie in Gaines, 1 year sample of Marcus Cooper, and Sean Smith who just got a DUI so he's going to be suspended at some point.

This is no different than what they did with the o-line. Tons of inexperience and unknowns. Where between what will be our three CBs playing the most snaps, they have a total of 6 years NFL experience. That's playing with fire.

They aren't putting eggs in any basket. This baskets not going to market until Dorsey and Reid have the eggs they want worth the price they want. This teams in transformation mode. Get over it.

**Rausch** · 06-14-2014, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

They aren't putting eggs in any basket. This baskets not going to market until Dorsey and Reid have the eggs they want worth the price they want. This teams in transformation mode. Get over it.

This team is in 100% dumping $$$ mode.

It's not improving talent.

It's not in a "win now" mode.

It's finding the most expensive players and replacing them.

And Dorsey is doing a VERY piss poor job...

Pablo · 06-14-2014, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

They aren't putting eggs in any basket. This baskets not going to market until Dorsey and Reid have the eggs they want worth the price they want. This teams in transformation mode. Get over it.

Yeah, just be patient and we'll have a real contender here in 2016. Or 2018. Or 2020.

It's a process.

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