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Old 06-13-2014, 01:01 PM  
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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.
He's a Charger now.
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:12 AM   #451
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And putting all of its resources into elite ceiling guys and a massive coaching staff.
There is no draft pick or FA signed the last two years with an "elite ceilling."

Not a one...
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:12 AM   #452
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The Chiefs have question marks at the following spots now:



LT

RT

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They are below average at the following spots:



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I just can't find glasses that are red and gold enough to convince myself that all of those things are going to be sufficiently addressed with internal players.

I think we could scratch RT off the unknown list. We've seen a decent bit of Stephenson to know what we'll likely be getting with him.

I'd also move ILB to the below average list. He's been around long enough for us to know he sucks.

.. And this post makes me wonder. Will Sean Smith be our LCB or will they keep him at RCB and put Coop at LCB like they did most of last season?
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:13 AM   #453
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when Sean Smith played LCB for the Dolphins in his final year he was absolutely dog shit horrible. He lost himself a big contract because of it. He can't cover teams number 1 WRs majority of the time on the left.
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So another rebuild?

a rebuild of what was originally a rebuild? So it takes the Chiefs 8 years to rebuild where it takes a team like Seattle 3.
You don't seem aware of this, but KC keeps changing coaches and that always reboots the build process.

Seattle, unlike KC, was smart enough to fire a shitty coach after one season and hired a brilliant guy that most of the folks around here would have thrown a temper tantrum had we hired him. We gave Herm three, Haley two, and Crennel one. Seattle booted the guy who didn't perform... we gave them jobs for six seasons.
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I think we could scratch RT off the unknown list. We've seen a decent bit of Stephenson to know what we'll likely be getting with him.

I'd also move ILB to the below average list. He's been around long enough for us to know he sucks.

.. And this post makes me wonder. Will Sean Smith be our LCB or will they keep him at RCB and put Coop at LCB like they did most of last season?
With all the other ?'s it won't matter...
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You don't seem aware of this, but KC keeps changing coaches and that always reboots the build process.

Seattle, unlike KC, was smart enough to fire a shitty coach after one season and hired a brilliant guy that most of the folks around here would have thrown a temper tantrum had we hired him. We gave Herm three, Haley two, and Crennel one. Seattle booted the guy who didn't perform... we gave them jobs for six seasons.
And you're fine with this? Like the Chiefs get a free pass in certain "down" years because of this "process." Rather than demand a consistent winner as a fan?

What happens when this go around fails and this place is yelling for the next new coach and/or GM? The process resets again and that regime gets a pass in down years too?

This isn't me writing off Reid/Dorsey. It's me saying what if they end up like the rest, and we move on to yet another new FO/coaching staff. Theres only two ways this "process" will go, and they will either win, and fans will be happy or they will lose, and fans will start to get a little crazy/the sky is falling when the losing comes. I feel like the leash should be short for the Chiefs to just throw seasons.
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Is this freeing up money for Alex smith or what ?
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And you're fine with this? Like the Chiefs get a free pass in certain "down" years because of this "process." Rather than demand a consistent winner as a fan?

What happens when this go around fails and this place is yelling for the next new coach and/or GM? The process resets again and that regime gets a pass in down years too?
The only way to get a consistent winner is with a QB.
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The only way to get a consistent winner is with a QB.
we don't have that right now?
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when Sean Smith played LCB for the Dolphins in his final year he was absolutely dog shit horrible. He lost himself a big contract because of it. He can't cover teams number 1 WRs majority of the time on the left.

I'm not sure Cooper will fare much better, although he is definitely our best hope.
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we don't have that right now?
I am optimistic, but we shall see.


Whether we have a QB or not, we shouldn't be crying over losing an overpaid CB since it really doesn't matter.
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we don't have that right now?
Not even discount-double-check could overcome a $3itty O line...
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There is no draft pick or FA signed the last two years with an "elite ceilling."

Not a one...
cooper, and aj Jenkins have elite celings.

Fisher, knile Davis, Commings, Dee ford, Phillip Gaines, also have elite ceilings. They are all physical specimens, in some sort. I doubt they will ever reach said ceilings, but the potential is there.
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