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Old 06-13-2014, 01:01 PM  
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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.
He's a Charger now.
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Old 06-14-2014, 09:05 PM   #526
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I had assumed they'd both be cut after the 2014 season, unless they agreed to stay on at a drastically lower pay grade.

I can't understand why they wouldn't hold on to Flowers for one more season. That would make way more sense, even needing to extend Houston and Smith.
Maybe because Flowers sucked on the perimeter in this system and sucked in the slot? So they want to move on to someone who might stand a chance at being better?
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Old 06-14-2014, 09:12 PM   #527
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will he land with the patriots
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Old 06-14-2014, 09:18 PM   #528
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He'd be their 4th best corner. The only places where he'll get a shot at starting is Oakland or SD and maybe Detroit. That's because their secondaries are so bad.
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Old 06-14-2014, 09:21 PM   #529
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He'd be their 4th best corner. The only places where he'll get a shot at starting is Oakland or SD and maybe Detroit. That's because their secondaries are so bad.
I would think he would want to play for a playoff team instead of start for a shit team
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Old 06-14-2014, 09:28 PM   #530
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He'd be their 4th best corner. The only places where he'll get a shot at starting is Oakland or SD and maybe Detroit. That's because their secondaries are so bad.
Now you're just being dramatic.
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Now you're just being dramatic.
Revis, Browner one could agree with. Neither play inside though. Arrington is a solid slot CB but can't play on the outside as well as Flowers.
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I've tried, but I just can't get too worked up about this. I likes Flowers, but he's declining. I ask myself these questions;

Was he an above average player? (I don't think so, anymore)

Did he fit our scheme? (Mostly not)

Was he worth his contract? (Absolutely not)

Are the players expected to replace him better than he is? (Probably not as I type this, but my gut feeling is that they will produce AT LEAST as well as he would've this coming season)

Does this move make us better? (No)
Does this move make us worse? (IMO, marginally, if that)
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The biggest thing I think we'll miss is Flowers run support on the fringes. He was courageous in run support.
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Why can't Flowers move to safety?
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We're not really going to miss him, this was going to happen sooner or later anyway.

Lets get the length, speed and youth out there asap... sincere best wishes to a model Chief, but this is best for everyone involved.
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I think, ultimately, this is the churn we should expect with our roster. It's a pure weighing of value. Is the money tied up in a declining player worth more than if we could spend that money now or in the future on an ascending player? This regime clearly believes it isn't.
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Maybe because Flowers sucked on the perimeter in this system and sucked in the slot? So they want to move on to someone who might stand a chance at being better?

Right. A top 10 CB over the past 4 seasons had a down year while playing in a new scheme so we'll move on to a #2 that was legitimately raped in his time as a #1 CB, an undrafted FA, a journeyman, a 5'9" slot guy, and a 3rd round rookie...

Solid plan.
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Why can't Flowers move to safety?
because we cut him
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Now you're just being dramatic.
He wouldn't start over either Revis or Browner. Dennard would likely be slotted ahead of him. Their younger DB, Logan Ryan, had a great year last year with 5 INTs in limited time so they'll likely put him ahead of Flowers too because his ceiling would be higher.
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Flowers was so good last year.

QB stats against Flowers in 2013:

64/96 66.7% comp against Flowers

846 yards allowed

4 TDs

103 passer rating

But by all means, hang on to the 5'9" CB who runs a 4.55 with a 30" vertical when he clearly demonstrated last season that he would be nothing more than an ineffective player in this scheme. Hell, he couldn't even manage the slot at a high level.
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