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Old 06-13-2014, 01:01 PM  
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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.
He's a Charger now.
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:44 AM   #586
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I'd like to hear why people think he has another year, but it was ok to cut Flowers now.
Because pass rushers are harder to find than CB's.
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:46 AM   #587
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He is put in a position that he hasn't been in prior to last year, but he's been one of the most phyical corners in the league during his career.
Oh yeah I agree. I've always said he's extremely interested physical. That's my point. Him playing in a system that puts him in those positions even more is probably not a great thing for him at this point in his career.
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:46 AM   #588
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I will add that cutting Flowers only makes sense if we use the money for Houston etc.....
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:07 AM   #589
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Because pass rushers are harder to find than CB's.
Shouldn't be an issue, as we apparently just drafted the next Derrick Thomas.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:14 AM   #590
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I will add that cutting Flowers only makes sense if we use the money for Houston etc.....
This is my issue with it.

If they cut him and don't bother putting the money towards Houston THIS YEAR, they could have waited.

And to be clear, I'm not necessarily upset with the move. I figured he was gone next year. Hali as well. Just not sure why if you're cutting guys who are getting older and losing a step, why Hali is some sacred cow and Flowers is expendable.

Or better yet, if you're just looking to save some money, why Flowers has to go NOW, while guys like Daniel, DeVito, Fasano and Colquitt are making $4M each.

Not a single one of those guys would be missed, and all are ridiculously overpaid.
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Colquitt would. Unless your boy Sucupp is punting for you?
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If they cut him and don't bother putting the money towards Houston THIS YEAR, they could have waited.

This is my issue. If we don't extend Houston or Smith with these savings this season, we just cut a good CB for absolutely no reason.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:34 AM   #593
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He isn't being asked to be more physical? He has to play press more. He has to tackle more seeing as he'll be left alone by himself more often. He had 20 more tackles last year than he had any other year of his career. I don't think that's a fluke.
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Where did you find that stat? Your imagination? It's not a fluke.. it's just not true.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...F/FlowBr99.htm

http://www.nfl.com/player/brandonflowers/754/profile
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I will add that cutting Flowers only makes sense if we use the money for Houston etc.....
My thoughts exactly...
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By waiting until June 1, they can spread the cap hit over two seasons instead of absorbing it all this season.
That's incorrect. Under the new CBA they could have cut him sooner and still designated him as a June 1 cut. I believe teams are allowed to do that with 2 players each year. The Chiefs did it with none so the option was available. Waiting this long makes no sense
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That's incorrect. Under the new CBA they could have cut him sooner and still designated him as a June 1 cut. I believe teams are allowed to do that with 2 players each year. The Chiefs did it with none so the option was available. Waiting this long makes no sense
This was my point...
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That's incorrect. Under the new CBA they could have cut him sooner and still designated him as a June 1 cut. I believe teams are allowed to do that with 2 players each year. The Chiefs did it with none so the option was available. Waiting this long makes no sense
I'll preface this by saying I'm not 100% sure, but IIRC, the money still stays on your cap until June 1st.

The Cowboys did this with Miles Austin, I believe.
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Holy shit, your dumbassery needs to end. If you truly believe that just because you're playing Cover 3 means that you're going to have success, you are a complete mongoloid.

In the Div round this year, the Broncos had 3rd and 17 with 3:07 left with the ball on their own 20. Peyton correctly worked away from the rotation and found Thomas for a 21 yard gain.



The defense the Chargers called?



Your beloved, all-powerful, unstoppable Cover 3.



Hoo. ****ing. Ray.
The chargers dont play cover 3 press out of the 4-3 under.
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Old 06-15-2014, 11:05 AM   #599
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Would Flowers make Seattles roster if they could have him for cheap? No becuase they'd take a 6'2 UDFA who can run over him
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But yes installing a cover 3 press won't make your defense = to Seattles. Or else the Jags would be the second best D in the league.

The point is that you need the players, and that's how my comments relate to this thread, the players Seattle is choosing in the secondary are large UDFA type CB's
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