Chiefs Brandon Flowers done - Page 44

OldSchool · 09:35 PM

Just want to say thanks to the Hunt family for the 6years in Kansas City thanks to the fans and my teammates for some great years.
— Brandon Flowers (@BFlowers24) June 13, 2014

Sounds like Brandon Flowers has just been traded or released.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

Sounds like Brandon Flowers is out. Stay tuned
— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) June 13, 2014

Detroit - a rumored destination for Brandon Flowers - just released Chris Houston, too.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

The #Chiefs have announced they’ve released cornerback Brandon Flowers.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
Related: Texans, Chiefs
Jun 13 - 3:04 PM

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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.

He's a Charger now.

milkman · 06-15-2014, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123

Im hoping demarcus van dyke shows something and can make the 53

Cause all the best corners are UDFAs or castoffs.

**The Bad Guy** · 06-15-2014, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And Flowers wouldn't have been better than Owens or Gaines?

I just find it odd that when Flowers has a bad year, he deserves to be cut - but when other players making more money than their production dictates - and are older - the same folks change their opinion.

What would be the point in cutting Hali? His presence alone on this defense is going to force teams to gameplan for him.

Flowers wasn't that guy, not in this scheme.

**The Bad Guy** · 06-15-2014, 09:52 PM

I don't think Flowers is "washed up".

What I think is that he's strictly a zone corner at this point. He's slower than he was 3 years ago. He can't play bigger receivers on the outside and he hasn't played in the slot enough in his career to bank on him carving out a niche there. He's also considerably slower.

He's a very good corner when used in the right system.

**Baby Lee** · 06-15-2014, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

What would be the point in cutting Hali? His presence alone on this defense is going to force teams to practice their holding technique for him.

Flowers wasn't that guy, not in this scheme.

FYP

**The Bad Guy** · 06-15-2014, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

FYP

Truth.

I also will never cut a pass rusher over a corner unless that corner is in the top 5 at his position.

Jiu Jitsu Jon · 06-15-2014, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123

Im hoping demarcus van dyke shows something and can make the 53

Wow, then it's worse than I thought.

xztop123 · 06-15-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Cause all the best corners are UDFAs or castoffs.

This idea of "best" and "worse" is really stupid for team games. Hell the NBA isn't really that much of a team game and the Spurs just beat the team with the "best" players.

**LoneWolf** · 06-16-2014, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by xztop123

This idea of "best" and "worse" is really stupid for team games. Hell the NBA isn't really that much of a team game and the Spurs just beat the team with the "best" players.

So you're just as clueless about the NBA as you are about the NFL.

Dayze · 06-16-2014, 07:29 AM

wheh i said last year that Hali lost a step and I could see him gone after this season, quite a few people looked at me like I was a mouth breather.

well, at least that's 'one' of the reasons anyway.

**loochy** · 06-16-2014, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

So you're just as clueless about the NBA as you are about the NFL.

As he is about the English language as well.

TEX · 06-16-2014, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by xztop123

Yes. Cornerback is not a position that you have to spend high draft picks on. Especially when you can get by with one trick pony types of CB's. The CB's that Seattle and KC are after wouldn't be great corner backs for teams that run a multitude of coverages. Therefore they fall.

Holy shit, I don't know where to begin...

xztop123 · 06-16-2014, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Holy shit, I don't know where to begin...

you install a scheme so that you can get away with lower drafted players at specific positions. If every team used the same principles on offense and defense the draft would be much more clear-cut and predictable.

Back when zone blocking first came on the scene, the faster smaller linemen were not as sought-after and those guys were easier to acquire in later rounds.

Essentially you scheme in a way that allows for specialization. Can't have jack of all trades or what you all like to call "good" or "better" players at every position.

ghak99 · 06-16-2014, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

wheh i said last year that Hali lost a step and I could see him gone after this season, quite a few people looked at me like I was a mouth breather.

well, at least that's 'one' of the reasons anyway.

I kept trying to blame it on an injury, but it's looking like the one trick pony is all but tricked out.

ForeverChiefs58 · 06-16-2014, 10:19 AM

@RavensInsider: Ten NFL teams, including Ravens, Vikings, Falcons, Lions, reached out to Brandon Flowers so far. In preliminary stage, according to a source

**Rausch** · 06-16-2014, 11:04 AM

I am ****ing amazed that fans can watch competent talent walk out the door and still believe Dorsey is a solid GM.

We have two offseasons to judge and more talent has left 1 Arrowhead than has come in.

I was as big a backer of Dorsey as anyone here. I loved the hire. I loved his attitude and personality.

But he's a ****ing horrible GM. Just bad in the way herpes is bad...

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