Brandon Flowers done

[OldSchool]

Just want to say thanks to the Hunt family for the 6years in Kansas City thanks to the fans and my teammates for some great years.

— Brandon Flowers (@BFlowers24) June 13, 2014

Sounds like Brandon Flowers has just been traded or released.

— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

Sounds like Brandon Flowers is out. Stay tuned

— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) June 13, 2014

Detroit - a rumored destination for Brandon Flowers - just released Chris Houston, too.

— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

The #Chiefs have announced they’ve released cornerback Brandon Flowers.

— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
Related: Texans, Chiefs
Jun 13 - 3:04 PM

Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.

He's a Charger now.

[silver5liter]

Originally Posted by Marco Polo

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/...ers-still-free

Every June, a few players are released who appear as good as any free agents from earlier in the off season. The Patriots' grabbing jettisoned Chargers safety Rodney Harrison comes to mind. He led an all-rookie secondary to a Super Bowl victory over the Eagles. Last week, the Chiefs cut cornerback Brandon Flowers. In a league starved for cover corners, it seemed he would be gobbled up in a few minutes but he's still free. Ten teams were rumored to be interested, but only a few were identified.
Interest and commitment so signing him are two different things. There is a progression to resolving his situation, and it isn't as smooth a road as one would assume.
Step 1 -- Does he make a team better? While there are indications he may not be a top-flight corner, teams looking for a starter with the cap space have Flowers on their radar. I found seven teams fitting those qualifications (in alphabetical order): 49ers, Jaguars, Jets, Panthers, Raiders, Steelers and Titans. Note, the Falcons, where former Chiefs GM Scott Pioli is now an assistant GM, is not on the list.
Step 2 -- Review his 2013 season: Why did the Chiefs release him? One teammate said Flowers was the club's best tackler, but his current salary (his cap hit was a reported $10.5M for 2014) is out of line for any team to match this upcoming season, so Flowers must come to grips with possibly getting half of what he was making in Kansas City amid concerns about where he fits.
One opposing coach who schemed against him twice said, "[Flowers] appeared out of gas, DeSean Jackson exposed his lack of ability to run with speed receivers, and he probably belongs as a slot nickel and not an outside player."
Other evaluators expressed concerns about Flowers' maturity level. A sampling:
One coach: "He wants to be the leader of the secondary, but he belongs in the nickel position and he's more of a zone cover two guy than a man-to-man guy, and that will be a problem with his ego."
Another position coach: "He tends to blame the coaches when things go bad."
A scout: "Flowers wasn't particularly good to Romeo Crenel or Emmitt Thomas."
Those comments raise doubts about coachability which need to be resolved in a daylong interview.
A former teammate said, "There was a time when Flowers was the man. Now he's kind of out a gas." But another coach said, "I wish we signed him, because he is an upgrade."
There is some debate about how many big plays he gave up last season, but the range is between 9 and 13.
Step 3 -- Determine what he is: Rather than a starter, signs point to Flowers as a nickel corner who probably belongs in underneath zone coverage and not isolated on speed receivers who prefer vertical routes.
Step 4 -- Does he fit in the locker room? One former teammate described Flowers as a bit of a loner. It doesn't appear he would come to a new team and try and dominate the locker room. He was one of only two players who didn't show up for the spring off-season program in Kansas City and he has lost a lot of money by being released. He appears to be more of a one-year rental who is young enough (28) to reinvent his career with a solid season.
Step 5 -- Bring him in for a workout and interview: If he declines, walk away or make a low-ball offer and hold your ground. Despite his perception among some observers, some teams will see him as an upgrade and the pool of free agents isn't very strong at this point.

That stuff is kind of hard for me to believe. If he was such a dick with a huge ego we would have heard about it by now.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by silver5liter

That stuff is kind of hard for me to believe. If he was such a dick with a huge ego we would have heard about it by now.

It's contradicting. It's just a bunch of chatter.

"He wants to be the leader of the secondary"

"He's a loner"

[OnTheWarpath15]

Desean Jackson exposed Flowers by gaining 62 yards?

[Chiefnj2]

This morning I read the interview with Cooper from yesterday and they asked him a few times about Flowers and Cooper didn't have anything nice to say about him.

It's interesting to read now that he may not have been the best lockerroom guy.

[DTLB58]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Desean Jackson exposed Flowers by gaining 62 yards?

Gotta remember, that was still early in the season when the pass rush was very productive.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

This morning I read the interview with Cooper from yesterday and they asked him a few times about Flowers and Cooper didn't have anything nice to say about him.

It's interesting to read now that he may not have been the best lockerroom guy.

link?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by TEX

Your "carHarris ckup" argument when referring to Schwartz is anything but solid, yet you continue to use it. True, at one time he WAS that until he played himself into a solid starter. Rich Gannon was a "career backup" at one point too... There's a point there, but you're so intent on proving yours all the time, you miss many other valid ones.

Regarding your question, I'll answer it with one - How can you count on injured guys to be upgrades??? Especially guys who haven't even proven they belong in the NFL and one of which who had microfracture surgery...You cant.

The Chiefs have lost the most talent in the NFL and replaced it with the least amount of proven talent. In doing so they have created holes where they didnt exist last year. They have far too many questions for them all to work out.

So a guy who has been a backup for essentially 5.5 seasons isn't a career backup just because he had a half season of decent starts? Seriously?

And an oft injured Sanders commings> a fully healthy Kendrick lewis.

An injured Kelce + Demetrius Harris is as good if not better than McGrath.

Sorry I'm not going to cry over shitty to average players being cut or going elsewhere.
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[Dunerdr]

Flowers likely wouldn't have like cooper. He lost his outside roll to a no name shit like guy.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Flowers likely wouldn't have like cooper. He lost his outside roll to a no name shit like guy.

Or they just simply didn't get along.

Not everyone on a 53 man roster is going to like each other. Personalities clash, but that doesn't mean a player was a poor locker room guy.

[DTLB58]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Flowers likely wouldn't have like cooper. He lost his outside roll to a no name shit like guy.

Ironic how Cooper is seen now, where if we would've have taken a poll after week 9 he would have been DROY and Dorsey a genius.

Give the guy some time to develop and get coached. Everyone won't be a 1st rder.

[planetdoc]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

link?

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...3-c255f1e64199
(highlights)

Q: Did it become a little more real to you now that Brandon is not here?

COOPER: “You know every day I come out here as if I was the starter. I can’t say that it’s a different feeling or it’s not. Whether Brandon was here or wasn’t I still would still compete as if I was going for the starting job. There’s no big difference."

Q: What was your immediate reaction personally?

COOPER: “I can’t get into that. I am just worried about myself and worried about my football shift.”

Originally Posted by DTLB58

Ironic how Cooper is seen now, where if we would've have taken a poll after week 9 he would have been DROY and Dorsey a genius.

Give the guy some time to develop and get coached. Everyone won't be a 1st rder.

i still think cooper can be very good.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Our CB situation looks dire.

Nah.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by DTLB58

Ironic how Cooper is seen now, where if we would've have taken a poll after week 9 he would have been DROY and Dorsey a genius.

Give the guy some time to develop and get coached. Everyone won't be a 1st rder.

Coopers either a zero or a hero. I see him as a kid with the skillset to be good. He's young and under experienced. I hope to see some progress with him this season.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by planetdoc

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...3-c255f1e64199
(highlights)




i still think cooper can be very good.

thanks

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by DTLB58

Give the guy some time to develop and get coached. Everyone won't be a 1st rder.

Yep ! See Seattle.