Chiefs sign Safety Steve Gregory

[The Franchise]

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 4m
Former Patriots and Chargers safety Steve Gregory has signed with the Chiefs, according to his agent, David Canter

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Bowser

You know how they say guys play faster than their 40 times (Jerry Rice being the prime example with his 4.7 coming out of MVS)? Baldwin played slower than his 40 time at the combine. Much, much slower.

Plus, that's the problem with falling in love with a guy's measurable numbers at the combine.

which was my point to pugsdrugs when he said big/fast means a guy is better

[Bowser]

I can't hear the name Jon Baldwin and not think of Scott ****ing Pioli. Specifically, the story Bad Guy told about us about to draft Kaepernick, only to have Pioli nix that for Baldwin, because his pro bowl QB Matt Cassel just needed another weapon to go with Bowe. Hahahaha, ****.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I can't hear the name Jon Baldwin and not think of Scott ****ing Pioli. Specifically, the story Bad Guy told about us about to draft Kaepernick, only to have Pioli nix that for Baldwin, because his pro bowl QB Matt Cassel just needed another weapon to go with Bowe. Hahahaha, ****.

Lots of people love the Baldwin pick back when it happened. I believe Baldwin was the 3rd ranked WR by the masses and we got him at 25th or something.


hindsight

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Lots of people love the Baldwin pick back when it happened. I believe Baldwin was the 3rd ranked WR by the masses and we got him at 25th or something.


hindsight

I was a fan of the pick then. The kid just never put in the work. ****ing shame. IIRC....a lot of people we're pissed that we traded down instead of taking Phil Taylor.

[The Franchise]

It looks like we're going to end up with 3 starters out of the first 4 rounds of that 2011 draft. That's if Bailey turns out to be something decent.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

It looks like we're going to end up with 3 starters out of the first 4 rounds of that 2011 draft. That's if Bailey turns out to be something decent.

The fact is that with the exception of 2009, we've been able to come away with at least one franchise stud in every draft from 2005-2012. That's about what every team should shoot for in terms of consistency, and we haven't done a terrible job in adding valuable contributors and decent starters in addition to those studs we've drafted.

The Chiefs have drafted plenty of AIDS trees and obvious failures in that span, but given the reeruns and assholes running the team in that stretch, we could have ended up a lot worse draft-wise.

No clue how Dorsey is going to continue that. 2013 seems to have produced several valuable contributors, but no studs. 2014's draft on the surface seems to do about the same depending on how soon Dee Ford gets a chance to take over the reins. And that's if he's even good enough to do so.

[John Dope]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

There isn't any reason you can't have the continuity you suggest AND ADD talent. Not only did we not add talent, we didn't replace the talent we lost.


If we make the playoffs then Andy Reid will clearly deserve coach of the year.

How do you know yet?

I think you over value what we lost.

Plus we didn't have money.

The best way to add talent is to grow it from within and you don't know that we haven't done that yet.

How can you talk about the future and talk about hindsight in the same thread?

Some liked Baldwin in the draft and he sucked. Some don't like Gaines because he wasn't in their draft magazine but he could be better than Flowers. We don't know yet.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by John Dope

How do you know yet?

I think you over value what we lost.

Plus we didn't have money.

The best way to add talent is to grow it from within and you don't know that we haven't done that yet.

How can you talk about the future and talk about hindsight in the same thread?

Some liked Baldwin in the draft and he sucked. Some don't like Gaines because he wasn't in their draft magazine but he could be better than Flowers. We don't know yet.

but,but,but we have Commings at Free Safety!!!


yes, if a bunch UDFAs and street scrubs suddenly turn into NFL class starters then we didn't lose much talent. If a bunch of 6th and 7th round picks develop then we didn't lose depth.

and Ifs and buts were candy and nuts we will all have a great xmas


btw what is you main alts name?

[CallMeSquidwad]

Hopefully he can teach Sorensen to be a lifelong S/T/role player for us while also making a few key plays. If he can make the key plays McGraw made in 2010 without the 5 second 40 time and gaping hole between his legs then we will be solid!

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by CallMeSquidwad

Hopefully he can teach Sorensen to be a lifelong S/T/role player for us while also making a few key plays. If he can make the key plays McGraw made in 2010 without the 5 second 40 time and gaping hole between his legs then we will be solid!

Sorensen is a pretty solid safety.

And while his 4.67 40 time isn't the greatest (though it was faster than Kendrick Lewis'), he managed to set or tie positional (safety/defensive back) Combine records in the speed/burst drills (shuttles, cones, etc.).

The guy can really turn/change direction and go like a mofo, which is kinda what you want in a safety. He's also got pretty good football instincts. He's textbook on tackles and positioning. He should be an immediate contributor on special teams and viable as a decent backup who has the potential be able to grow into a solid nickle/dime package guy and maybe even a starter.

Personally, I thought Sorensen, along with Wilson, was the best draft pick we made in 2014, and he/they was an UDFA pickup.

If Dorsey could apply what he does in selecting UDFA's to the actual draft picks versus sticking to his board like superglue to skin, we might actually end up with a decent draft versus having to get guys after the draft as UDFAs.

[thabear04]

At least Javier Arenas is not on the team no more

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Sorensen is a pretty solid safety.

And while his 4.67 40 time isn't the greatest (though it was faster than Kendrick Lewis'), he managed to set or tie positional (safety/defensive back) Combine records in the speed/burst drills (shuttles, cones, etc.).

The guy can really turn/change direction and go like a mofo, which is kinda what you want in a safety. He's also got pretty good football instincts. He's textbook on tackles and positioning. He should be an immediate contributor on special teams and viable as a decent backup who has the potential be able to grow into a solid nickle/dime package guy and maybe even a starter.

Personally, I thought Sorensen, along with Wilson, was the best draft pick we made in 2014, and he/they was an UDFA pickup.

If Dorsey could apply what he does in selecting UDFA's to the actual draft picks versus sticking to his board like superglue to skin, we might actually end up with a decent draft versus having to get guys after the draft as UDFAs.

Do you know who else ran a 4.67-ish 40?

[ThaVirus]

He better not be white.

[nicksdad]

as a lifelong chiefs fan living in New England i have seen all of gregory's stint with the Pats. he is not the answer. he is smart, and plays with good instincts. he is also a willing, but not capable tackler. he is slow and not physically imposing. he was basically a whipping boy on what was a less than impressive defense.

[suzzer99]

sweet