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Old 08-13-2014, 01:37 PM  
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Teicher: No sign yet that Bowe will bounce back

ST. JOSEPH, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs made their decision on Dwayne Bowe for better or for worse last year when they signed him to a lucrative, long-term contract.

They didn’t get their money’s worth from their No. 1 wide receiver last year, when he had the worst statistical full season of his career. Bowe failed to lead the Chiefs in receiving for the first time since they traded Tony Gonzalez after the 2008 season.

But in part because of Bowe’s big contract, the Chiefs were limited in their ability to pursue a receiver in free agency. The only wide receiver likely to make the regular-season roster who wasn’t with the Chiefs last season is rookie Albert Wilson, an undrafted free agent.

So their best chance to see dramatic improvement at the position may rest with Bowe. He had a tough day at practice on Wednesday, dropping a pair of passes and deflected another for an interception.

That’s hardly an indication that Bowe won’t rebound this season. But he hasn’t had a great camp and the Chiefs may be guilty of wishful thinking when it comes to their top wide receiver.

Bowe in September will turn 30, the age when the skills of many receivers start their decline. Could it be that process has already started with Bowe?

We’ll find out soon. Chiefs wide receivers coach David Culley said Bowe is in much better shape than he was last summer. Bowe said he’s in the best shape of his career.

“I know from last year, it’s completely different,’’ said Culley, who in his second season with the Chiefs. “Thirty is a mindset. There’s old 30s and there’s young 30s. Which 30 do you want to be? When he came back, he came back as a young 30 and that’s what you have to do to play in this league for a long time.’’

The Chiefs need Culley to be right. If he’s not, it would be obvious the Chiefs made the wrong decision last year on Bowe.

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Old 08-14-2014, 07:27 PM   #256
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Thats the area where you need to be able to fight for a ball and make a catch and he was very lazy last year going for the ball.

I have brought this up before.

He jumps up in the air when he shouldn't.(his entire career)

He tips too many balls into the air, last year anyway.

He lets defenders get in front of him getting position.

He stops on slant routes rather than running through them.


If you haven't seen this you haven't been watching the games.
All of these bullet points are Smiths fault. /GoFraud
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:30 PM   #257
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Yea he is averse to throwing 11 yards. There is 50 yards difference between last year and 2012.

Look at those numbers and realize we are talking one or 2 throws a game difference.

Huge difference right. And Bowe dropped more balls last year than I ever remember.

BTW remember the Baltimore playoff game when Bowe had exactly 0 catches? How does that compare to Indy?

You are splitting hairs. Thats splitting a log.
No. Bowe's numbers are down because Alex simply does not throw over 10 yards as much as Cassel did.

Period. End of discussion. The absolute 100 percent truth. There is years and years of data to support this.

Deal with it.
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:35 PM   #258
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I am talking 2 total. Not 2 in the 20+ range. Look at your numbers. And see my last post.
I thought that was a season...not a game.
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:36 PM   #259
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No. Bowe's numbers are down because Alex simply does not throw over 10 yards as much as Cassel did.

Period. End of discussion. The absolute 100 percent truth. There is years and years of data to support this.

Deal with it.
Horseshit.

Years and years of posts support you are simply an agenda driven troll.

How do you explain Avery having a higher average YPC last year than he did with Luck and basically matching his career high at 14.9?
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:38 PM   #260
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Baltimore playoff game Bowe = 0 catches

Indy Playoff game Bowe = 8/150

Cassel > Smith
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:50 PM   #261
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Horseshit.

Years and years of posts support you are simply an agenda driven troll.
I posted about all this when it was rumored we were getting Alex.

All the data indicated he did not even throw downfield as much as little old Cassel.

Lo and behold it came true, and Bowe's numbers declined as a result.

This is all original research from yours truly last offseason, read it and weep:



And then of course there is this...



Alex just does not like throwing the ball over 10 yards.
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:52 PM   #262
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Baltimore playoff game Bowe = 0 catches

Indy Playoff game Bowe = 8/150

Cassel > Smith
In one playoff game, sure.

But if Alex doesn't play like a real ****ing QB for 16 games he's a useless shithead.

We won't reach the playoffs if he doesn't...
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:56 PM   #263
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It may be but I remember the off season when everyone was screaming to pay Bowe whatever he wants.

Why do you care its not your $? / CP

It is very possible Bowe just had a down year and could tear it up this season.

We will see.
Not this guy. I've known what bowe is for years. Just watching Jacksonville tonight. They have more talent from Ineligible WRs than KC has starting.
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Bowe did not have a down year. He's at the top of his game and has been since 2010.

He just ran into Alex Smith. And with Alex Smith, the down field targets dry up, and you can expect your best WR to give you about 800 yards at the max.

It's sad. But that is what we've become.
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Old 08-14-2014, 08:03 PM   #265
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I posted about all this when it was rumored we were getting Alex.

All the data indicated he did not even throw downfield as much as little old Cassel.

Lo and behold it came true, and Bowe's numbers declined as a result.

This is all original research from yours truly last offseason, read it and weep:



And then of course there is this...



Alex just does not like throwing the ball over 10 yards.
You didn't answer my question Clay. Why was Avery's YPC up alomst 2 yards from when he played with Luck and matched his career high?
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Old 08-14-2014, 08:04 PM   #266
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Bowe did not have a down year. He's at the top of his game and has been since 2010.

He just ran into Alex Smith. And with Alex Smith, the down field targets dry up, and you can expect your best WR to give you about 800 yards at the max.

It's sad. But that is what we've become.
How can you defend an average player with motivation issues?
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Old 08-14-2014, 08:05 PM   #267
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In one playoff game, sure.

But if Alex doesn't play like a real ****ing QB for 16 games he's a useless shithead.

We won't reach the playoffs if he doesn't...
Right. Now Playoff games dont mater and regular season does.

Spin, spin, spin, spin.
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Old 08-14-2014, 08:10 PM   #268
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He played a very good game, on the road, in the playoffs, and without his best player.

Still sucks.
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Right. Now Playoff games dont mater and regular season does.

Spin, spin, spin, spin.
They matter, but it's just one playoff game.

If Alex repeats the shit he did last year in the regular season, we'll win 6 or 7 games.
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