Teicher: No sign yet that Bowe will bounce back

[FringeNC]

ST. JOSEPH, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs made their decision on Dwayne Bowe for better or for worse last year when they signed him to a lucrative, long-term contract.

They didn’t get their money’s worth from their No. 1 wide receiver last year, when he had the worst statistical full season of his career. Bowe failed to lead the Chiefs in receiving for the first time since they traded Tony Gonzalez after the 2008 season.

But in part because of Bowe’s big contract, the Chiefs were limited in their ability to pursue a receiver in free agency. The only wide receiver likely to make the regular-season roster who wasn’t with the Chiefs last season is rookie Albert Wilson, an undrafted free agent.

So their best chance to see dramatic improvement at the position may rest with Bowe. He had a tough day at practice on Wednesday, dropping a pair of passes and deflected another for an interception.

That’s hardly an indication that Bowe won’t rebound this season. But he hasn’t had a great camp and the Chiefs may be guilty of wishful thinking when it comes to their top wide receiver.

Bowe in September will turn 30, the age when the skills of many receivers start their decline. Could it be that process has already started with Bowe?

We’ll find out soon. Chiefs wide receivers coach David Culley said Bowe is in much better shape than he was last summer. Bowe said he’s in the best shape of his career.

“I know from last year, it’s completely different,’’ said Culley, who in his second season with the Chiefs. “Thirty is a mindset. There’s old 30s and there’s young 30s. Which 30 do you want to be? When he came back, he came back as a young 30 and that’s what you have to do to play in this league for a long time.’’

The Chiefs need Culley to be right. If he’s not, it would be obvious the Chiefs made the wrong decision last year on Bowe.

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...ll-bounce-back

[anustart]

Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe is being suspended one game for substance abuse and will miss the opener vs. Tennessee, per a team source.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) August 15, 2014

SMH

[keg in kc]

Apparently tied to the arrest last year.

[Marcellus]

Mother ****er. Wouldn't that mean Sean Smith is going to be suspended a game or 2?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Mother ****er. Wouldn't that mean Sean Smith is going to be suspended a game or 2?

- CBS Sports

As the NFL and NFLPA continue to work toward a possible agreement to implement HGH testing, there could be a few other changes made if the two sides decide to change the league's substance-abuse policy.

One of those changes would potentially apply to first-time DUI offenders. According to ProFootballTalk, a player "deemed legally responsible" for his first DUI offense would be hit with a one-game suspension and a fine of one game check.

Under the league's current policy for substance abuse, a first-time offender generally faces a fine of two game checks, but no suspension.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Cochise

That's what everyone used to say about Bowe. "Imagine what he could do with a decent QB instead of Cassel?" Then we get one, a QB who completes >60% of his passes and never turns the ball over, and Bowe's numbers collapse - even though there's only one other legitimate weapon on the offense.

Critical thinking skills..

Alex Smith is a different case. He's hyper conservative and has historically been known to favor RBs/TEs in the passing game. Even if you just go back 3 years, like most Alex Smith ball washers do, he's played with some pretty good WRs and none have sniffed 1,000 yards.

I mean, is this shit hard for people to understand?

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Critical thinking skills..

Alex Smith is a different case. He's hyper conservative and has historically been known to favor RBs/TEs in the passing game. Even if you just go back 3 years, like most Alex Smith ball washers do, he's played with some pretty good WRs and none have sniffed 1,000 yards.

I mean, is this shit hard for people to understand?

What's hard to understand is how everyone ignores multiple reports by guys who watch game film for a living that Bowe was slower than a TE last year, and instead blame Alex Smith.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

What's hard to understand is how everyone ignores multiple reports by guys who watch game film for a living that Bowe was slower than a TE last year, and instead blame Alex Smith.

I never read any of those reports. I did read posts from jackasses on this site screaming that none of our guys get open. Then I open a new thread to see some random ass gif of our guys clearly getting open..

Anyway, chiefnj or whatever his name is just posted the "Offensive Identity" thread in the Lounge. Go check that out. We targeted our RBs more than our WRs. No team in the league even came close to the percentage of passing plays targeting RBs as opposed to WRs that we had.

"Ahh, but Andy Reid's West Coast offense!" Shuuuuuut the **** up.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I never read any of those reports. I did read posts from jackasses on this site screaming that none of our guys get open. Then I open a new thread to see some random ass gif of our guys clearly getting open..

Anyway, chiefnj or whatever his name is just posted the "Offensive Identity" thread in the Lounge. Go check that out. We targeted our RBs more than our WRs. No team in the league even came close to the percentage of passing plays targeting RBs as opposed to WRs that we had.

"Ahh, but Andy Reid's West Coast offense!" Shuuuuuut the **** up.

% of targets to WR/RB is a function of many variables, including the ability of WRs to get open.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

% of targets to WR/RB is a function of many variables, including the ability of WRs to get open.

Right, but when you've doubled the percentage of damn near every other team in the league, you have a pretty strong case for saying the QB needs to look down field more often.

I find it hard to believe the Titans, Rams, Jets, Raiders, Panthers, etc have WR corps that much better than ours. None of those teams even eclipsed the 20% of total targets to RBs mark. We eclipsed 45!

I mean, shit. With that "Offensive Identity" thread and Clay and Saphojunkie's posts highlighting the extremely lopsided down field passing chart, is it really ****ing hard to grasp why a guy that averaged over 1,000 yards per season would come in and only go for 600?

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Right, but when you've doubled the percentage of damn near every other team in the league, you have a pretty strong case for saying the QB needs to look down field more often.

I find it hard to believe the Titans, Rams, Jets, Raiders, Panthers, etc have WR corps that much better than ours. None of those teams even eclipsed the 20% of total targets to RBs mark. We eclipsed 45!

I mean, shit. With that "Offensive Identity" thread and Clay and Saphojunkie's posts highlighting the extremely lopsided down field passing chart, is it really ****ing hard to grasp why a guy that averaged over 1,000 yards per season would come in and only go for 600?

After the bye week, the Chiefs offense played well. Whether Bowe rebounds this year or not, if the O-line blocks as well as they did post-bye, I think we'll have a good passing offense, regardless of the defined position of the receiving targets. I know I am in the minority, but I thought Alex Smith played well last year, and expect him to play better this year, if the line can block.

[John Dope]

Well, the good news is that he won't drop any balls against Tennessee. The bad news is that it was actually one of the few games where he might have put up some decent stats because he would have been going against an average corner.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

After the bye week, the Chiefs offense played well. Whether Bowe rebounds this year or not, if the O-line blocks as well as they did post-bye, I think we'll have a good passing offense, regardless of the defined position of the receiving targets. I know I am in the minority, but I thought Alex Smith played well last year, and expect him to play better this year, if the line can block.

Alex Smith isn't terrible. I would never make that claim. What he gives you makes him just about average- anywhere from 12-18 in the league to most people, I'd guess. It's just that he's so hyper conservative that it makes him hard to gauge. We really haven't seen anything like him in the NFL.

Drew Brees and Peyton Manning throw to their RBs and short routes all the time, but those guys also sling the rock all over the yard and lead the league in passing in almost every major statistical category while propelling their offenses to top 3 territory year aftet year..

One thing is certain, he's going to have to play better this season than he did last year if we want to have a prayer of making the playoffs. All of those games with 185 passing yards and no TDs have to go. After 9 years in the league, or whatever he's got under his belt, he shouldn't have so much trouble moving the chains.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

lolz at the dishonesty.

The offense scored 27 on avg in Smith started loses.
The defense allowed 34 on avg in those games.

If only KC could of been as good as Geno and the Jets in loses.
Avg of 10 points scored.
Or 49ers with Kaep 1 better at 11 points.

You just don't get it. Alex Smith isn't going to win those games. If he scored 34 the opponent would score 37.

He doesn't have what it takes to win shootouts.

[John Dope]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

You just don't get it. Alex Smith isn't going to win those games. If he scored 34 the opponent would score 37.

He doesn't have what it takes to win shootouts.

You just don't get it. Alex is going to be our quarterback for the next 3-4 years whether you like it or not. If you don't think he's going to win, or if you don't want him to win, then why hang around? Why be a Chiefs fan?

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

What was our record last year when the defense gave up more than 17 points?

1-6

So it goes.

You really really really really really really need to stop posting these kinds of statistics. They mean less than nothing. Less than nothing.

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

You just don't get it. Alex Smith isn't going to win those games. If he scored 34 the opponent would score 37.

He doesn't have what it takes to win shootouts.

I think I know what you're trying to say here, but that statement makes no ****ing sense.