V2.0 - ***Official 2014 Training Camp/Preseason Mega-thread***

[John Dope]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Im not debating at all that Logan Thomas underachieved in college.

but, if you watched any of his tape from his freshmen season, you could see potential.

that's all I am saying.

Potential means you haven't done shit.

Look, so we stop trying this one ups manship bullshit, lets look at it this way.

Colin Kaepernick.

Would he be colin kaepernick without Jim Harbaugh?

I say no, some times you just get put into a PERFECT situation.

That's all im saying.

I don't agree. What makes Kapernick great is his god given physical attributes and the scheme they run. it's not his ability to read defenses or anything Harabaugh has taught him. Jim just put him in a position to succeed with the tools he's got.

Logan Thomas, with say Rex Ryan, and the Jets.

I would have ZERO faith in him.

I agree that he has a better shot with Arians but I also don't think Arians gives much of a shit about project players.

its situation.
a lot of success in this league, is based on situation.

Just my opinion.

some will disagree. Take Clay, or count zarth if you will.

He believes foolishly that a GREAT QB, OVER COMES ALL ODDS.

Now, most know that isn't true. Look at Drew Brees. The year he didn't have Sean Payton, they went 7-9.

Brees was great before he went to New Orleans. Marty would have won a Superbowl with him imo. Payton didn't make Drew Brees man. I don't see it that way at all.

there is a reason that the NFL is the most TEAM centric sport.

One player, can make a difference, but he cant over come everything.

Situation. Its a huge part of the game.

I agree but I also think the most important attribute for a QB is his ability in clutch situations, big games, and big moments. You know Russell Wilson was supposed to go in the 5th or 6th round. Know why Carroll took him in the the 3rd? Because he had seven 4th quarter comebacks at Wisconsin in one season. It's the most important thing man.

have a nice night bud.

Let's let it play out. I like my odds. Good night dude. It was fun.