Fleming still starting on the outside, Gaines still in the slot.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by 58-4ever

I remember Fleming from OU... Let's just say he was better than William Bartee.

Bartee was a victim of the idiocy of the Kansas City Chiefs.

William Bartee was a Safety in college. The great and wise people of the Kansas City Chiefs front office thought it would be a fantastic idea to draft a Safety, which they did not need, and move him over to cornerback, arguably the most challenging position on defense.

The kid wasn't cut out to play corner, and the front office and defensive coaches and Grampa Dick were just to ****ing stupid to realize it. He NEVER looked for the football. He had NO awareness, no feel for the position whatsoever.

As far as Fleming goes, I don't see what everyone is so jazzed about. He got 4/4 completed against him, and 2 penalties. The one PI was complete and total horseshit, but it counted nonetheless.

Cooper has struggled, but got completely ****ed by the non-call in the 49er game on the shot to the face he took from Stevie Johnson downfield so that scrub could get separation for the TD. Illegal Contact, Hands to the Face, multiple calls could have been made on that play against Johnson but the officials elected to ignore that for some reason.

Cooper is likely having some confidence issues that they are trying to get him through. He can play, we've seen him do it.

I hope this Fleming kid works out, but he's no ****ing knight in shining armor here to save our secondary and kick Sean Smith to the curb.

That's ****ing hilarious.

Lets see the kid get thrown at without a completion, or a penalty first.

Baby steps.

[58-4ever]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Bartee was a victim of the idiocy of the Kansas City Chiefs.

William Bartee was a Safety in college. The great and wise people of the Kansas City Chiefs front office thought it would be a fantastic idea to draft a Safety, which they did not need, and move him over to cornerback, arguably the most challenging position on defense.

I know who ****ing William Bartee is. He had no business coming in the first place. He only played two years at OU and defended 12 passes with 2 total interceptions in college.

I never said Fleming was the second coming of anything. I said he's better than Bartee.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

As far as Fleming goes, I don't see what everyone is so jazzed about. He got 4/4 completed against him, and 2 penalties. The one PI was complete and total horseshit, but it counted nonetheless.

There were actually two passes his way that went incomplete.

It was closer to 4/6. Just wanted to correct the record on that.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Bartee was a victim of the idiocy of the Kansas City Chiefs.

William Bartee was a Safety in college. The great and wise people of the Kansas City Chiefs front office thought it would be a fantastic idea to draft a Safety, which they did not need, and move him over to cornerback, arguably the most challenging position on defense.

The kid wasn't cut out to play corner, and the front office and defensive coaches and Grampa Dick were just to ****ing stupid to realize it. He NEVER looked for the football. He had NO awareness, no feel for the position whatsoever.

As far as Fleming goes, I don't see what everyone is so jazzed about. He got 4/4 completed against him, and 2 penalties. The one PI was complete and total horseshit, but it counted nonetheless.

Cooper has struggled, but got completely ****ed by the non-call in the 49er game on the shot to the face he took from Stevie Johnson downfield so that scrub could get separation for the TD. Illegal Contact, Hands to the Face, multiple calls could have been made on that play against Johnson but the officials elected to ignore that for some reason.

Cooper is likely having some confidence issues that they are trying to get him through. He can play, we've seen him do it.

I hope this Fleming kid works out, but he's no ****ing knight in shining armor here to save our secondary and kick Sean Smith to the curb.

That's ****ing hilarious.

Lets see the kid get thrown at without a completion, or a penalty first.

Baby steps.

Cooper sucks. He's a target now that every NFL team attacks with success. He got bitch slapped by Stevie Johnson. WR's don't respect Cooper and it shows on the field.