Fleming still starting on the outside, Gaines still in the slot.

[Direckshun]

Wow.

It is amazing how fast the Chiefs went from full-on homer with Marcus Cooper to now pretending the guy doesn't exist.

We need more information on this Fleming kid. Anybody follow him prior to him ending up in KC?

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...le3258069.html

Chiefs to stick with new starters in the secondary on Sunday
By RANDY COVITZ-
10/22/2014 3:04 PM

Chiefs coach Andy Reid said the team likely will stick with cornerbacks Jamell Fleming and rookie Phillip Gaines in the lineup Sunday against St. Louis.

Fleming, who was signed during the second week of the season, started at left cornerback in place of Marcus Cooper, and Gaines opened at nickel back.

“There’s a chance we’ll do that,” Reid said. “There were some good things that Fleming did. He settled down as the game went on. His juices were flowing early. Gaines did a good job on the inside, and when he had chances on the outside, he did a nice job there.

“I came out feeling positive about it. Is there room to improve? We have to continue to get better there.”

Smith’s Rams memory

Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith’s life turned upside down the last time he faced the St. Louis Rams.

While playing for San Francisco, he suffered a concussion on Nov. 11, 2012, in a 24-24 tie against St. Louis, and he never returned to the lineup. Smith’s backup, Colin Kaepernick, started the final seven regular-season games, three postseason games and the Super Bowl, and Smith was traded to the Chiefs in the spring of 2013.

“I haven’t given it that much thought,” Smith said. “Certainly I recognize when we go over the personnel, some of these guys. I remember the game. I remember it well. But I haven’t really thought about the what-ifs.”

Smith, who rushed for a club-record 431 yards by a quarterback last season, uses the feet-first slide more than he did as a younger player, but not because of the hit he absorbed against the Rams.

“You get older, you get smarter,” said Smith, 30. “Whether you like it or not, as a quarterback, you’re a target, and you get outside the pocket, some of the rules that protect you go away. So it’s being smart, understanding situations, and for the most part protecting yourself when you get outside the pocket.”

Injury report

The Chiefs said wide receivers Donnie Avery (sports hernia) and Junior Hemingway (strained hamstring), and cornerback Chris Owens (concussion) did not practice Wednesday. Strong safety Eric Berry, who has missed the last four games because of a high ankle sprain, worked with the scout team and was to be re-evaluated after practice.

Tight end Travis Kelce (ribs) and cornerback Sean Smith (groin) were limited.

The Rams said cornerback Janoris Jenkins (knee), guard Rodger Saffold (knee), defensive end William Hayes (illness), safety T.J. McDondald (concussion) and wide receiver Kenny Britt (ankle) did not practice.

Dorsey, Bienemy nominated

Chiefs general manager John Dorsey and running backs coach Eric Bienemy are among several players with ties to the team who have been nominated for the College Football Hall of Fame’s Class of 2015.

Dorsey, a linebacker at Connecticut during 1981-83, was nominated in the Divisional class. Bienemy, a running back at Colorado, helped lead the Buffaloes to the 1990 national title.

Former Chiefs who were nominated include defensive end Art Still, an all-American at Kentucky and the club’s first pick in the 1978 draft; and running back Paul Palmer of Temple, who led the nation in rushing and was a first-round pick in 1987.

[chiefzilla1501]

Are they sour on Cooper? Wonder if maybe they will match Fleming up against speed years and Cooper against bigger receivers.

[Prison Bitch]

But has Dorsey been fired yet Direck?

[Mav]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Are they sour on Cooper? Wonder if maybe they will match Fleming up against speed years and Cooper against bigger receivers.

His confidence is probably shot. Probably giving him some time to reset I would guess.

[58-4ever]

I remember Fleming from OU... Let's just say he was better than William Bartee.

[O.city]

Why is everyone so ready to release Sean smith? He's been much better than I thought he would be and has been a damn good corner for us. He's young and in his prime.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by 58-4ever

I remember Fleming from OU... Let's just say he was better than William Bartee.

Bartee was a victim of the idiocy of the Kansas City Chiefs.

William Bartee was a Safety in college. The great and wise people of the Kansas City Chiefs front office thought it would be a fantastic idea to draft a Safety, which they did not need, and move him over to cornerback, arguably the most challenging position on defense.

The kid wasn't cut out to play corner, and the front office and defensive coaches and Grampa Dick were just to ****ing stupid to realize it. He NEVER looked for the football. He had NO awareness, no feel for the position whatsoever.

As far as Fleming goes, I don't see what everyone is so jazzed about. He got 4/4 completed against him, and 2 penalties. The one PI was complete and total horseshit, but it counted nonetheless.

Cooper has struggled, but got completely ****ed by the non-call in the 49er game on the shot to the face he took from Stevie Johnson downfield so that scrub could get separation for the TD. Illegal Contact, Hands to the Face, multiple calls could have been made on that play against Johnson but the officials elected to ignore that for some reason.

Cooper is likely having some confidence issues that they are trying to get him through. He can play, we've seen him do it.

I hope this Fleming kid works out, but he's no ****ing knight in shining armor here to save our secondary and kick Sean Smith to the curb.

That's ****ing hilarious.

Lets see the kid get thrown at without a completion, or a penalty first.

Baby steps.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by O.city

Why is everyone so ready to release Sean smith? He's been much better than I thought he would be and has been a damn good corner for us. He's young and in his prime.

$$$

He's slated for $9m next year.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

$$$

He's slated for $9m next year.

But if he's playing to that level, oh well

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by O.city

But if he's playing to that level, oh well

You'd argue he's playing to that level now?

[MTG#10]

Originally Posted by Guru

And what if he doesn't? What are you going to do about it.

I'll pout relentlessly

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

Im wearing my Berry jersey to the game Sunday, he better ****ing play.

I've been wearing my Berry jersey all season on Sundays. It's my only jersey though so it's that or some older sweatshirts.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

You'd argue he's playing to that level now?

Iirc, he's one of the top ranked corners this year. He may bot be playing to 9 mil, but if he's not restructure it

[RunKC]

They aren't giving up on Cooper. They realize he's struggled and they can't have him out there right now. Teams have had enough tape on him to exploit his weaknesses. He's definitely hit a sophomore slump.

He needs to do some film study and work to get back in the game. Way too early to give up on him, especially since he isn't being paid much of anything.

[Eleazar]

Cooper did, does, and will always suck

[RunKC]

CB is a hard position. Patrick Peterson is struggling so much that the Cardinals brass called him out.

Gotta get thought the slump and come back strong.