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Old 10-23-2014, 01:36 PM   #1
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When you cut players and payroll, add 4 draft picks, clean up your long term cap, and get much better... That's not a 9-7 strategy.
Cutting players based only on salary, not filling any of those holes with legitimate starters, drafting b/u's in the first round is a 9-7 strategy.

We made no attempt to improve any position in free agency. We lost starters in free agency...
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Old 10-23-2014, 02:21 PM   #2
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Cutting players based only on salary, not filling any of those holes with legitimate starters, drafting b/u's in the first round is a 9-7 strategy.

We made no attempt to improve any position in free agency. We lost starters in free agency...
All that and yet were better than we were last year.

It's a dumb argument
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Old 10-23-2014, 02:25 PM   #3
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All that and yet were better than we were last year.

It's a dumb argument
In what way is .500 better than last year?

How is 3-3 better than 6-0?

I really want to hear this...
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Old 10-23-2014, 02:29 PM   #4
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In what way is .500 better than last year?

How is 3-3 better than 6-0?

I really want to hear this...
If you've watched every game this year and have come to the conclusion that the Chiefs aren't much improved over last year, there's no reason for us to have this conversation.

They've played the toughest schedule in the afc up to this point and could/should be 5-1.

A year after playing one of the all time easiest schedules and beating up on backup qbs. They didn't have a single win last year that was against a better team than their 3 wins this year.

Again, bitching just to bitch
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Old 10-23-2014, 02:47 PM   #5
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If you've watched every game this year and have come to the conclusion that the Chiefs aren't much improved over last year, there's no reason for us to have this conversation.

They've played the toughest schedule in the afc up to this point and could/should be 5-1.

A year after playing one of the all time easiest schedules and beating up on backup qbs. They didn't have a single win last year that was against a better team than their 3 wins this year.

Again, bitching just to bitch
We lost to the exact same team we beat last year. That team's record this year is 2-5. We're one of their 2 wins.

You keep saying this team is better. Other than the obvious suck that was Lewis at what position are we "better" this year?

Our line is worse. Our WR's and QB are exactly the same. So are our HBs.

Our defense sure as hell isn't better with DJ out for the year and Berry gone for half our games.
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Old 10-23-2014, 02:53 PM   #6
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We lost to the exact same team we beat last year. That team's record this year is 2-5. We're one of their 2 wins.

You keep saying this team is better. Other than the obvious suck that was Lewis at what position are we "better" this year?

Our line is worse. Our WR's and QB are exactly the same. So are our HBs.

Our defense sure as hell isn't better with DJ out for the year and Berry gone for half our games.
Literally none of the numbers used to determine any of this quantitatively, agree with any of the stuff you just said.
Save for the Titans loss, which is looking more and more like an outlier.
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:11 PM   #7
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We lost to the exact same team we beat last year. That team's record this year is 2-5. We're one of their 2 wins.

You keep saying this team is better. Other than the obvious suck that was Lewis at what position are we "better" this year?

Our line is worse. Our WR's and QB are exactly the same. So are our HBs.

Our defense sure as hell isn't better with DJ out for the year and Berry gone for half our games.
The Titans are not the same team they were last year. And teams lose games that they should win all of the time. It's how football is.
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:16 PM   #8
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The Titans are not the same team they were last year. And teams lose games that they should win all of the time. It's how football is.
More importantly, it's clear as day that the Chiefs lost that game because they were unprepared, not because of talent.
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We lost to the exact same team we beat last year. That team's record this year is 2-5. We're one of their 2 wins.

You keep saying this team is better. Other than the obvious suck that was Lewis at what position are we "better" this year?

Our line is worse. Our WR's and QB are exactly the same. So are our HBs.

Our defense sure as hell isn't better with DJ out for the year and Berry gone for half our games.
Last year, we got to the playoffs on what we know was a patty cake schedule. We all know we were watching a shit offense and as the second half of the season plugged along, realized out defense was not at all good.

This year, our offense looks solid. Our defense looks solid. That is a significant improvement over the shit stain we saw throughout much of last year. That's improvement.

I don't think it's enough improvement. I agree this is still a 9-7 team. But that's pretty impressive for a team everyone on here claimed took a huge step backwards.
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:39 PM   #10
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I don't think it's enough improvement. I agree this is still a 9-7 team. But that's pretty impressive for a team everyone on here claimed took a huge step backwards.
Last year we lost by 1 point, on the road, in the playoffs.

This year we likely won't get there. I'm sure 9-7 in this division won't get us there.

I'm not saying this team is terrible. I'm saying this team could have been 11-5 again with just one or two STARTING LEVEL players added.

A possession receiver. A respectable G. A CB to come in and challenge our no 2...
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In what way is .500 better than last year?

How is 3-3 better than 6-0?

I really want to hear this...
So you don't actually watch the games you just look at the standings each week?

I bet you are one of the guys who complained we didn't beat any decent teams last year and only beat bad QB's. Am I right?

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Old 10-23-2014, 04:21 PM   #12
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So you don't actually watch the games you just look at the standings each week?
No.

I haven't missed a game since 93.

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I bet you are one of the guys who complained we didn't beat any decent teams last year and only beat bad QB's. Am I right?
And no.

I was one of those guys saying that the only reason we lost that playoff game was stupidity by the coaching staff and players doing things like going out of bounds with a huge lead...or Smith hiking the ball with over 15 seconds on the play clock...or not running the ball more.

Fat Andy is frustrating. He's conservative when we need to take a chance and takes risks when we should be conservative.
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