Mellinger: In the Jets, there's a lesson for Chiefs fan about taking the safe route

[Red Dawg]

Why is everyone obsessed with bringing up our lack of playoff wins? Would winning a playoff game every other year be any better? The Chiefs are finally on the right track to building a team with depth that can compete for a championship and possibly win one and that is all that matters. Playoff wins are worthless if you are not tbe champ. The champ is the only winner in pro sports.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Why is everyone obsessed with bringing up our lack of playoff wins? Would winning a playoff game every other year be any better? The Chiefs are finally on the right track to building a team with depth that can compete for a championship and possibly win one and that is all that matters. Playoff wins are worthless if you are not tbe champ. The champ is the only winner in pro sports.

So you ask the question of why people care about playoff wins and then you say we should only care about winning a SB.

Awesome.

Let us know how the Chiefs can be so good that they are just given the Lombardi.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by jd1020

So you ask the question of why people care about playoff wins and then you say we should only care about winning a SB.

Awesome.

Let us know how the Chiefs can be so good that they are just given the Lombardi.

I think you know what I mean. Winning a playoff game then getting bounced in the next one is not anything special. Only winning the championship is worth something. Ask any player if he would rather have a bunch off playoff wins or one chanpionship? Pretty obvious what they say.

I am also pretty sure that if the Royals had won game seven nobody would give two damns that had not made the post season since 85 anymore.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

I am also pretty sure that if the Royals had won game seven nobody would give tow damns that had not made the post season since 85 anymore.

Go lie down and sober up and come back later.

EDIT: quick edit there my man. Very nice.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Why is everyone obsessed with bringing up our lack of playoff wins? Would winning a playoff game every other year be any better? The Chiefs are finally on the right track to building a team with depth that can compete for a championship and possibly win one and that is all that matters. Playoff wins are worthless if you are not tbe champ. The champ is the only winner in pro sports.

Uh, those two things are the same argument. They've used the same strategy with every coach and/or GM change for the past 180 years and have fewer playoff wins in their history in KC than the Royals had in October.

The argument for the safe route is having a chance to make the playoffs every year. The argument against it is that making the playoffs and even winning one playoff game every once in a while (or every couple years) shouldn't be the goal, so maybe change up that strategy now that it's been 3 decades since you last tried something different. But of course, it's different this time!!

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Uh, those two things are the same argument. They've used the same strategy with every coach and/or GM change for the past 180 years and have fewer playoff wins in their history in KC than the Royals had in October.

I am getting so sick of this argument comparing the Royals and the Chiefs. Baseball is a completely different animal. They are series', not single elimination games (WC game, notwithstanding). And let us not forget that the Royals had not even been to the playoffs for 3 decades. Also, let us not forget that they barely got in as a WC and nearly lost that game, as well. I suppose you could compare winning a series in baseball as similar to winning a playoff game in the NFL. Even then, I don't believe it is a completely accurate comparison. But I do think that if the Chiefs had series' to win against teams they lost to over the years that they would have won a few of those. Finally, as the Royals proved this year is that the first step to winning a championship is getting into the tournament.

[Coogs]

Looks to me like Sam has been reading the Planet, and instead of posting his take here, did it in the Star.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I am getting so sick of this argument comparing the Royals and the Chiefs. Baseball is a completely different animal. They are series', not single elimination games (WC game, notwithstanding). And let us not forget that the Royals had not even been to the playoffs for 3 decades. Also, let us not forget that they barely got in as a WC and nearly lost that game, as well. I suppose you could compare winning a series in baseball as similar to winning a playoff game in the NFL. Even then, I don't believe it is a completely accurate comparison. But I do think that if the Chiefs had series' to win against teams they lost to over the years that they would have won a few of those. Finally, as the Royals proved this year is that the first step to winning a championship is getting into the tournament.

Yeah, I know, 29 years is quite pathetic, but so are the Chiefs.

As far as just getting in, it's completely different between baseball and football, or at least it should be.

What I find amusing is that baseball teams should definitely aim for just getting into the playoffs based on the fact there's not a huge difference between the best and worst playoff teams (the best teams only win ~60% of the time and is heavily dependent on pitching, so you get one game that's 7-1 Giants and another game that's 10-0 Royals), as opposed to the large difference in football (~50-62% for WC teams and 80-93% for the best teams).... yet (and here's the amusing part), the Chiefs have played the baseball strategy of "let's just get in" for decades AND the fans not only go for it AND not only eat it up, they practically demand it.

I'm not saying anything definitive about this group after two years, except that SO FAR it's looks exactly like the same old shit, and until that actually changes, fans can eat up mediocre beating mediocre and the occasional upset all they want and bring up that one Ravens team or that one Giants team, but playing the baseball strategy is clearly not the way to go... of course, just my opinion after watching that strategy fail for 30 years, minus that one time they acquired Joe freakin' Montana. I'll give it another two or three decades though just to be sure.