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Old 10-31-2014, 04:13 PM  
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Dexter mcluster not the weapon advertised.

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Old 11-01-2014, 01:44 PM   #121
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The moral of the story here, is, (and I'm looking at you drafturbators)...

STOP THINKING 2ND ROUND PICKS ARE SURE FIRE SOLID STARTERS / PRO BOWL CALIBER PICKS.

It's not the case.

You may luck out and get a Brandon Flowers here and there...or a Gronk...or a Kaepernick...

but the odds are not in your favor

The Dexter's are like a wash. Not a Flowers, not a Tyrone Calico...but a solid 2nd round pick, again, albeit forgettable.
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:45 PM   #122
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He's not a below average 2nd round pick.

He's probably a slightly above average 2nd round pick. Maybe, considering the fact he was #36 overall, he is middle of the pack in 2nd round value.

But, again...still a fine pick, and again, albeit forgettable.
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:45 PM   #123
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He's not a below average 2nd round pick.

He's probably a slightly above average 2nd round pick. Maybe, considering the fact he was #36 overall, he is middle of the pack in 2nd round value.

But, again...still a fine pick, and again, albeit forgettable.
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:45 PM   #124
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Is it just me or was McCluster not bad for us?
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:47 PM   #125
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Is it just me or was McCluster not bad for us?
Pretty bad.

A real WR and we might have not been poverty passing game INC since 2006.

Imagine if Alex had Golden Tate last year in that playoff game...I bet we would have won.
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:48 PM   #126
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The moral of the story here, is, (and I'm looking at you drafturbators)...

STOP THINKING 2ND ROUND PICKS ARE SURE FIRE SOLID STARTERS / PRO BOWL CALIBER PICKS.

It's not the case.

You may luck out and get a Brandon Flowers here and there...or a Gronk...or a Kaepernick...

but the odds are not in your favor

The Dexter's are like a wash. Not a Flowers, not a Tyrone Calico...but a solid 2nd round pick, again, albeit forgettable.
Again, look at the good teams though or the teams that draft well. Atleast half the time (if not more), they're picking at the worst competent starting caliber players with the few all pros and the few shitbirds.
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:49 PM   #127
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Imagine if we were able to trade our pick every year, after the season, for the best player drafted any pick after the pick we drafted in for every single round!

we'd probably win a playoff game!
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Again, look at the good teams though or the teams that draft well. Atleast half the time (if not more), they're picking at the worst competent starting caliber players with the few all pros and the few shitbirds.
No, they aren't.

The best of the best drafting teams probably hit on about 40% of their 2nd round picks. Tops.

It's like 55% for 1st rounders, tops, too.

Anything after the 2nd?

Total crapshoot...albeit 3rd and 4th round picks still have certain amount of value.

5th - 7th?

Shit. More UDFA's pan out every year than players from those rounds.
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Old 11-01-2014, 02:08 PM   #129
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He was productive and helped the team.
Only when Andy Reid took control and used him the exact opposite way he was intended to be used when he was drafted. And that was for one year.

In those other years, Dex was far more a hindrance to the team because we were forcing ourselves to think of ways to give him the ball.
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Packers:

Daryn Colledge- Starter, no longer on the team due to contract
Greg Jennings- Starter, was damn good in their system, no longer on the team due to contract
Brandon Jackson Dud
Jordy Nelson Ultra stud starter
Brian Brohm Dud, but a wise pick nonetheless as insurance incase Rodgers wasn't ready his first year as starting QB
Patrick Lee Dud
Mike Neal Oft-injured, but a starter the past two years
Randall Cobb Ultra stud starter
Jerel Worthy Dud
Casey Hayward Pretty damn good starting CB when he's healthy. Call him Brandon Flowers
Eddie Lacy Ultra stud starter

(They're really good at WR's, but what else? This bodes well for us with Dorsey! Or we need Aaron Rodgers...)
3 ultra-stud starters
2 starters still with the team
2 starters that the team let go due to salary cap shit
4 duds

7/11 2nd round picks they hit on, where they got starter-quality production out of them.
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Eddie Lacy is an ultra stud starter, eh? I disagree on that one. I'd take Knile Davis over Eddie "overrated Alabama back" Lacy. 2nd round pick RBs should be ULTRA STUD STARTERS like 80% of the time, by the way.
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3 ultra-stud starters
2 starters still with the team
2 starters that the team let go due to salary cap shit
4 duds

7/11 2nd round picks they hit on, where they got starter-quality production out of them.
so when I do the Chiefs 2nd round picks since 2006

we get to count Dexter as a hit, right?
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Knile Davis is another example of just how poverty McCluster is.

Davis was picked in the third round and is a MUCH better player...it's not even close. A lot more value.
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different positions

3rd round RB's, also, should have a success rate of about 70%, at least

You can find great RB's all over the place...taking one in the 1st round is ultra ****ing stupid.

A 3rd round RB is basically like a late 1st round talent
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Is it just me or was McCluster not bad for us?
Unless you're as stinky awful as Chad Hall, if a team draws up 3-4 gadget plays each game designed to get you the ball, you're going to have a little bit of production.

That's what McCluster had during the Haley/Daboll years
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