Hunt and Alex Smith

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

Personnel wise, you still seem 3-4 years from serious AFC super bowl contention.

In the modern NFL it doesn't take 3-4 years to build a SB team...

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Rausch

In the modern NFL it doesn't take 3-4 years to build a SB team...

That's how long it took to build the Seahawks championship team.

KC's 4 year clock hasn't really started yet given how bad Dorsey's drafts have been.

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

That's how long it took to build the Seahawks championship team.

KC's 4 year clock hasn't really started yet given how bad Dorsey's drafts have been.

seattle started with no one. we have A LOT of really good players. it will not take anywhere near 4 years if dorsey isnt a dumb ass

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

seattle started with no one. we have A LOT of really good players. it will not take anywhere near 4 years if dorsey isnt a dumb ass

You're overrating the talent on the roster by a wide margin here.

There are some unproven guys who look like they could be good starters (Davis, Kelce, Gaines etc) and a lot of league average guys, and then two really good players in JC and Houston.

Problem with the former is that he's a running back who's about to hit a cliff production wise and the other is a guy who will demand a lot of money in free agency.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You're overrating the talent on the roster by a wide margin here.

There are some unproven guys who look like they could be good starters (Davis, Kelce, Gaines etc) and a lot of league average guys, and then two really good players in JC and Houston.

Problem with the former is that he's a running back who's about to hit a cliff production wise and the other is a guy who will demand a lot of money in free agency.

Every major weakness could be fixed this offseason.

We need one legit WR and one dependable possession WR.

We need two G's.

We need to improve the talent at ILB.

The rest we can win a playoff game with...

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Every major weakness could be fixed this offseason.

We need one legit WR and one dependable possession WR.

We need two G's.

We need to improve the talent at ILB.

The rest we can win a playoff game with...

Not unless you know of a creative way around the salary cap.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Not unless you know of a creative way around the salary cap.

We could get a possession WR and a quality G for what Bowe is making alone.
Draft a WR.
Draft a G.
Draft an ILB. Sign one...

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You're overrating the talent on the roster by a wide margin here.

There are some unproven guys who look like they could be good starters (Davis, Kelce, Gaines etc) and a lot of league average guys, and then two really good players in JC and Houston.

Problem with the former is that he's a running back who's about to hit a cliff production wise and the other is a guy who will demand a lot of money in free agency.

no i'm not, this team is more talented at the top than most teams in the nfl. didnt we have the second highest amount of pro bowlers last year?

but the point i was getting at is that we have one of the best pass rushers in the nfl in houston. the most explosive rb in ther nfl in charles, we have a lot of other good players like poe, bailey, sean smith, berry(maybe), hudson, etc. and a competent qb

seattle had brandon mebane, red bryant..... and thats it.

it should not take us as long to build a complete roster as it did them.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

seattle started with no one. we have A LOT of really good players. it will not take anywhere near 4 years if dorsey isnt a dumb ass

Seattle had a tremendous 2 year stretch in the draft, and then got lucky enough to find the perfect QB for their system in the 3rd draft. That's the exception, not the rule, even for teams drafting at the top.

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Seattle had a tremendous 2 year stretch in the draft, and then got lucky enough to find the perfect QB for their system in the 3rd draft. That's the exception, not the rule, even for teams drafting at the top.

I agree. if we had only dontari poe, and no one else, i would look at their model, and i would say, it is going to take us AT LEAST 4 years to build a roster.. I wouldn't even expect us too. but were not even in a remotely similar situation as they were in....we are not that far away. we have quite a few really good players. our problem is the guys around them completely SUCK.

realistically we only need a few offensive lineman, a few good WRS, and an ILB to have a very good team. I really dont see the difficulty in obtaining quality players in those positions when we have 11 draft picks, and can potentially save nearly 30 million dollars by cutting 2 players who arent really contributing much in hali and bowe.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

I agree. if we had only dontari poe, and no one else, i would look at their model, and i would say, it is going to take us AT LEAST 4 years to build a roster.. I wouldn't even expect us too. but were not even in a remotely similar situation as they were in....we are not that far away. we have quite a few really good players. our problem is the guys around them completely SUCK.

realistically we only need a few offensive lineman, a few good WRS, and an ILB to have a very good team. I really dont see the difficulty in obtaining quality players in those positions when we have 11 draft picks, and can potentially save nearly 30 million dollars by cutting 2 players who arent really contributing much in hali and bowe.

If it was as easy as you seem to think it is, every team would do it.

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

If it was as easy as you seem to think it is, every team would do it.

i don't think it's easy... which is why i said, ". if we had only dontari poe, and no one else, i would look at their model, and i would say, it is going to take us AT LEAST 4 years to build a roster.. I wouldn't even expect us too."

but the fact is we have a team with some really good players, that are being weighed down by a few really bad players. we are not that far away.

the 85 bears would have gotten run on with mauga and jmj at ilb. it doesn't seem all that unreasonable to me to be able to find a competent ilb in the offseason with 11 draft picks, and money to spend by getting rid of underachievers.


on offense our o line is holding us back obviously. we have seen, that even without big plays from our WR's our offense is fully capable of being explosive with jamaal, kelce, knile, dat, and bowe when the o line plays well. that is obviously more of a project than the defense, but it doesnt take 4 ****ing years to assemble a competent o line, and add a decent WR.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

That's how long it took to build the Seahawks championship team.

KC's 4 year clock hasn't really started yet given how bad Dorsey's drafts have been.

It's a 40 YEAR clock sir...