Congratz Dorsey, you suck.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Again, if you read what was actually talked about in the offseason, you'd probably agree in hindsight more than you realize.

I never said the oline would be good. What I said is that good gms can build good olines while spending little money and using lesser draft picks. Dorsey has done that. But between 4 picks and multiple free agents, the oline talent is terrible. That is a problem with Dorsey, not the approach. He has to get better evaluating oline talent.

I got a lot of shit for saying we didn't need desean Jackson and jairus Byrd. Obviously, they'd both be huge upgrades. But look where we landed. We barely signed Alex Smith and we are scared as shit we won't extend Houston, berry, Hudson, or Poe. I still stand behind the approach to clean up the cap vs spend big money.

I predicted 7-9 and said I just wanted to see improvement. We've seen the worst case scenario. Even behind the worst offensive line we've seen in years, we will probably end up over. 500 against a brutal schedule.

I know the oline has to be much better. Obviously, our receivers suck. But whereas everyone had this ultimatum to win now, I said it would take two years and the only way it works is if Dorsey is nails. I think he's quietly built an excellent dline, secondary, tes, and backfield. His next step is to patch up the oline and bring some receiving weapons. He has whiffed big time on these two things so far so he better get that shit right next offseason.

There were a lot of people who predicted 2-14. It's amazing that because of one loss, Cp is siding with these people instead of the realists who predicted a 7-9 good or quite great yet year.

We (fans) didn't set the ultimatum to win now. John Dorsey set that expectation by trading for Alex Smith. That's not a "win in the future" move. That's a win-now move.

The issues with signing players comes down to a willingness to use big signing bonuses to "game" the salary cap. Teams like Denver are willing to do that. The Chiefs have never shown a willingness to do that, under any of the GMs in the salary cap era (MAYBE you can count the McGlockton signing under Peterson in 98 or whatever it was, but that's really it). Owner has to be willing to sign those checks...

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

We (fans) didn't set the ultimatum to win now. John Dorsey set that expectation by trading for Alex Smith. That's not a "win in the future" move. That's a win-now move.

After the Pioli ousting, I disagree that another three year losing rebuild was an option. We've quietly rebuilt this team without the pain of watching a complete shit show. Let's not act like Cp wouldn't be in the same state of pissiness if we chose to dismantle this team.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

We (fans) didn't set the ultimatum to win now. John Dorsey set that expectation by trading for Alex Smith. That's not a "win in the future" move. That's a win-now move.

The issues with signing players comes down to a willingness to use big signing bonuses to "game" the salary cap. Teams like Denver are willing to do that. The Chiefs have never shown a willingness to do that, under any of the GMs in the salary cap era (MAYBE you can count the McGlockton signing under Peterson in 98 or whatever it was, but that's really it). Owner has to be willing to sign those checks...

The worst part about the win now move in trading for Smith is that they gave him a Cutler esque contract that removes any possibility of improving both facets of the team in free agency.