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Old 12-01-2014, 01:49 PM   #1
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How would Luck have performed with this god awful o line and lack of decent receivers? Our O line can't pass block for more than 2 seconds and our receivers can't get any kind of seperation in 10 seconds let alone 2. Then mix in the fact that we don't use one of our best offensive weapons (Kelce) on a consistent basis, and that during 1/3 of our games the coach forgets we have Charles on the roster, and Davis barely touches the ball. Lots of problems on this team. I think Luck is a good qb who has the ability to be great, but I don't see many qbs being successful with all the odds they would have to fight here.
He would do what most QBs do. He would find the ****ing outlet to dump it off too. He'd also take shots down the field which would keep the defense honest.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:54 PM   #2
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He would do what most QBs do. He would find the ****ing outlet to dump it off too. He'd also take shots down the field which would keep the defense honest.
with these weapons? He'd just be rapidly tumbling down the Geno Smith hill.

No, Alex is playing a wise and patient game. He will work with what he has.. in his own way.. until the decision-makers bring in real talent to throw to and real talent to pass block.

Answer something... where would you and others categorize our OL corps? Bottom 5, right? How about the collection of WRs? bottom 5, right?

So what in the hell do you really expect a good but not great QB to do with that? and which other QBs could do more with this?
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Old 12-01-2014, 02:00 PM   #3
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with these weapons? He'd just be rapidly tumbling down the Geno Smith hill.

No, Alex is playing a wise and patient game. He will work with what he has.. in his own way.. until the decision-makers bring in real talent to throw to and real talent to pass block.

Answer something... where would you and others categorize our OL corps? Bottom 5, right? How about the collection of WRs? bottom 5, right?

So what in the hell do you really expect a good but not great QB to do with that? and which other QBs could do more with this?
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A wise and patient game? What's wise about never audibling into a hot route to relieve the all-out blitzes that we see all the time?
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Old 12-01-2014, 02:01 PM   #4
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A wise and patient game? What's wise about never audibling into a hot route to relieve the all-out blitzes that we see all the time?
It's probably by design. There are in fact systems that do not allow the QB to audible out.

Rivers wasn't allowed to audible out of a play when Norv was his HC.

IIRC, Trent Green wasn't allowed to audible out during the DV era.
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Old 12-01-2014, 02:03 PM   #5
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It's probably by design. There are in fact systems that do not allow the QB to audible out.

Rivers wasn't allowed to audible out of a play when Norv was his HC.

IIRC, Trent Green wasn't allowed to audible out during the DV era.
So...what you're saying is our $17 mil a year high football IQ QB can't be trusted to audible into plays that high school QBs are allowed to audible into. SWEET!
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So...what you're saying is our $17 mil a year high football IQ QB can't be trusted to audible into plays that high school QBs are allowed to audible into. SWEET!
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Old 12-01-2014, 02:21 PM   #7
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So...what you're saying is our $17 mil a year high football IQ QB can't be trusted to audible into plays that high school QBs are allowed to audible into. SWEET!
Most passing concepts have built in hot reads. No need to 'hot route' a receiver, more important to call out the protection or check someone into protection from their route. I've never seen HS Qb's changing routes at the line. Maybe checking to a run from a pass or vice versa, but not changing just one route.
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Most passing concepts have built in hot reads. No need to 'hot route' a receiver, more important to call out the protection or check someone into protection from their route. I've never seen HS Qb's changing routes at the line. Maybe checking to a run from a pass or vice versa, but not changing just one route.

Good point.

Nothing should even need to be changed- only recognized. You'd think the 9 year vet who is supposedly a master of the short passing game in an offense that is predicated on the short passing game would know where his outlet guy is going to be.

Line up, recognize where the potential blitzers could be coming from, find a receiver in that direction, pass the ****ing ball, profit!
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Old 12-01-2014, 02:03 PM   #9
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A wise and patient game? What's wise about never audibling into a hot route to relieve the all-out blitzes that we see all the time?
You know what. That's a fair point. I never see alex audible.

He always audibled under harbs. Does Andy not let him?
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with these weapons? He'd just be rapidly tumbling down the Geno Smith hill.

No, Alex is playing a wise and patient game. He will work with what he has.. in his own way.. until the decision-makers bring in real talent to throw to and real talent to pass block.

Answer something... where would you and others categorize our OL corps? Bottom 5, right? How about the collection of WRs? bottom 5, right?

So what in the hell do you really expect a good but not great QB to do with that? and which other QBs could do more with this?
Our WRs are not bottom 5....and neither is the offensive line.
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Our WRs are not bottom 5....and neither is the offensive line.
Eh.....you sure 'bout that.....I think a pretty strong argument can be made that our O-line is most certainly a bottom feeder.
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Eh.....you sure 'bout that.....I think a pretty strong argument can be made that our O-line is most certainly a bottom feeder.
I think they're in the 20-25 range.
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I think they're in the 20-25 range.
According to Football Outsiders, they are ranked 10th in adjusted line yards rushing, and 22nd in adjusted sack rate.
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Our WRs are not bottom 5....and neither is the offensive line.
LOL... Which teams have it worse? Name them all.
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