Track Dee Ford's Trillions

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by SNR

"But his first step off the snap..."

You know who else had an elite first step off the snap that you just can't teach?

R-Kal Truluck.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

And just in case Wallcrawler is following me around, let that be an insult to Dee Ford.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

No its not.
Its a dumb statement.

The only reason anyone though trulek was anything other than a scrub was because TG said some shit during TC.

To say he had an elite first step is absolute asinine.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

No its not.
Its a dumb statement.

The only reason anyone though trulek was anything other than a scrub was because TG said some shit during TC.

To say he had an elite first step is absolute asinine.

Then your memory is off.

It absolutely showed when Truluck played that he had an elite first step. I would show you on youtube or something, but nobody gives a shit about Truluck because he sucked as a player.

THE POINT IS that a good first step is only icing on the cake. It's nice to have and can provide that extra boost to become a great player IF you do all the other things right as a pass rusher. Truluck was deficient in those areas. He had zero upper body strength, he had no moves, wasn't very fast, he couldn't bull rush, and he was terrible at recognizing the play.

Remind you of anybody currently on the Chiefs?

Truluck was a shitty player and a false hope that a Vermeil defense could have ANYBODY in the front 7 worth a squirrel fart (until Jared Allen came along). And Dee Ford is unfortunately showing the exact same qualities as a player.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by SNR

Then your memory is off.

It absolutely showed when Truluck played that he had an elite first step. I would show you on youtube or something, but nobody gives a shit about Truluck because he sucked as a player.

THE POINT IS that a good first step is only icing on the cake. It's nice to have and can provide that extra boost to become a great player IF you do all the other things right as a pass rusher. Truluck was deficient in those areas. He had zero upper body strength, he had no moves, wasn't very fast, he couldn't bull rush, and he was terrible at recognizing the play.

Remind you of anybody currently on the Chiefs?

Truluck was a shitty player and a false hope that a Vermeil defense could have ANYBODY in the front 7 worth a squirrel fart (until Jared Allen came along). And Dee Ford is unfortunately showing the exact same qualities as a player.

The guy has barely played. He showed great strength and speed at the combine. He's also learning the LB position after playing DE.

Good Christ. Can we at least see this guy play before we call him a dumpster fire instead of judging on an extremely small sample size?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RunKC

The guy has barely played. He showed great strength and speed at the combine. He's also learning the LB position after playing DE.

Good Christ. Can we at least see this guy play before we call him a dumpster fire instead of judging on an extremely small sample size?

We're not saying it's impossible that Ford can't turn the corner. We're saying it's bullshit that Dorsey's first round picks get "buffer" years in which they are allowed to play like crap as much as they want because they're raw.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by SNR

We're not saying it's impossible that Ford can't turn the corner. We're saying it's bullshit that Dorsey's first round picks get "buffer" years in which they are allowed to play like crap as much as they want because they're raw.

I agree but as we've seen, Dorsey likes taking high potential players rd 1 and developing them for the long run. That's why I'm going to be pissed if Fisher isn't looking like a top 10 caliber LT next season.

As for Ford, he's taking over next season. Tamba is gone. He's got the 2nd highest contract for a 3-4 OLB and he's got 5 sacks in 12 games. That's not worth the price he's getting.

[58-4ever]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I agree but as we've seen, Dorsey likes taking high potential players rd 1 and developing them for the long run. That's why I'm going to be pissed if Fisher isn't looking like a top 10 caliber LT next season.

As for Ford, he's taking over next season. Tamba is gone. He's got the 2nd highest contract for a 3-4 OLB and he's got 5 sacks in 12 games. That's not worth the price he's getting.

Right, that money goes to Poe, who has 4 sacks in a much harder position to get sacks. Ford needs to produce, that's the bottom line.