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View Poll Results: Was this firing justified?
Definitely. That kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated. 2 4.00%
Eh, probably. You can't do that kind of thing as a semi-public figure. 9 18.00%
Na, probably not. It was uncalled for, but hardly worth firing someone over. 17 34.00%
Are you crazy? Who the hell gets fired for hitting on a girl? 22 44.00%
I'm a woman whose opinion isn't worth hearing. (I'm completely kidding. Don't hate me.) 0 0%
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Old 12-03-2014, 07:48 PM  
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Is this firing justified?
For the five of you who know who he is, Adrian Dater, the beat writer for Avalanche hockey for the Denver Post since 1994, was fired today for being creepy to a girl on Twitter. You can check out the posts on her account here if you'd like, but the key screenshots she posted were these:

Post from May 2013 where he comments about her profile photo:
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Post from October 2013 where he basically says she's not worth debating because she's a woman:
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Recent post where he asks for an uncropped version of her (already suggestive) profile photo:
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The interwebs seem to think that he's an evil bastard who deserves everything coming to him, but I honestly have trouble feeling like the guy should have been FIRED for this. So I figured I'd ask the undoubtedly female friendly CP how you all feel to get some perspective.
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:12 PM   #16
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So did somebody complain? And if so, was it the woman tweeter or someone else?
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:12 PM   #17
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My answer isn't part of the poll: It's a private media company that is justified in terminating its employees if management decides that this person isn't representing their company appropriately. Either the company will suffer because the public responds negatively to the move, or the company is enriched because the public responds positively to the move. Either he will suffer because he diminished his worth in the marketplace, or he will be enriched because he increased his worth in the marketplace. Que sera, sera.
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:12 PM   #18
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Hard to say, the guy may have some other history of being creepy to women. Wonder if he ever got the pic.
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:13 PM   #19
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I know it doesn't change anything....but go check out the rest of her twitter pictures. Low cut tops....exposing cleavage.

Plus....what was with the "Good! Glad you liked it" when he first commented on the picture?
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:18 PM   #20
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None of the choices encapsulate my opinion. I'm presuming an at will employment state, which nearly closes the book on the matter. But further, hitting on people in the workplace is henke enough. Doing it so you leave a record is playing with fire. Dismissing her opinion based on her gender isn't something I'd document either.

Put me in 'it's their prerogative' column.
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:22 PM   #21
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My answer isn't part of the poll: It's a private media company that is justified in terminating its employees if management decides that this person isn't representing their company appropriately. Either the company will suffer because the public responds negatively to the move, or the company is enriched because the public responds positively to the move. Either he will suffer because he diminished his worth in the marketplace, or he will be enriched because he increased his worth in the marketplace. Que sera, sera.
I negotiated this dilemma by taking morality out of it and just looked at it from the standpoint of the employer. Would the employer be harmed by retaining this employee? If so, then I think its justified.
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:22 PM   #22
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There's clearly more to it...

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My long association with the Post came to an end today. That's a really bad thing to have to write, but it's reality.
I said a bunch of stupid things on social media once too often. It was unprofessional and I paid the price.
Social media and I were always going to be a dangerous mix. I'm opinionated and have the occasional real hot temper.
But my problems were deeper than that.
I've had some pretty bad substance abuse problems. Every single time I got myself in trouble with my mouth, substances helped play a role, probably a big one.
I tried to deny it was a big problem but it obviously was and is.
A lifestyle of a lot of late nights away from home in lonely hotel rooms and a stressful lifestyle at times kind of caught up with me. I used too many wrong things as coping mechanisms. I also have dealt with manic depression for years and when the real dark moods come over me I tend to do things to hurt myself more. I don't want these to be used as excuses or to win sympathy. But I'm just adding explanations of what I've had problems with.
I do believe some things said about me recently in accusatory manners is totally false, with people misrepresenting things. Some things that have been written about one incident are completely wrong.
But the bottom line is I caused my own problems and have to own them.
I've been seeking more in-depth help for some of my problems and if I could ask for one thing, it's that you hope for the best that I can.
I know I'm a good person down deep, but greatly flawed.
It was my pleasure writing on the Avalanche for 20 years for a great paper. Nobody can take those memories away.
I love my family and the No. 1 thing I need to do is try and make them proud of me again.
I'm so sorry I let people down. I hope to some day write a happier comeback story for you to read.
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:26 PM   #23
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Refreshing honesty. I wish him the best.
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:26 PM   #24
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I know it doesn't change anything....but go check out the rest of her twitter pictures. Low cut tops....exposing cleavage.

Plus....what was with the "Good! Glad you liked it" when he first commented on the picture?
The young ones all seem to dress like that nowadays. Unfortunately, I couldn't believe a top my own daughter had on when she emerged from a classroom when I went up a few days early for the ND game.I have to always tell her to pull it up. It's nothing to them.
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:27 PM   #25
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:28 PM   #26
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:33 PM   #27
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In the workplace, or when representing my employer, I find it best to pretend that all humans are asexual beings.
Oh so your workplace ethics match your personal & romantic life?
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:36 PM   #28
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Oh so your workplace ethics match your personal & romantic life?
There is a time and place for and a time and place for .
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:37 PM   #29
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Nothing that you posted comes close to a firing offense. That said, if he's in a right to work state without a contract, or he's dumb enough to sign a vague morals clause, that's the end of that.
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:38 PM   #30
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so these were direct messages to her, so she must have filed a complaint?

the interaction seemed much more like friends to me than scribe/reader. Not that creeping your friends is right, but a different dynamic for sure.

i suspect they were aware of his other issues and this was a way of getting rid of him.
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