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Old 12-28-2014, 05:15 PM  
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6-10 Team with Chase Daniel
Someone at the game today made a comment that we should play Chase Daniel next year and "get rid of that clown Smith". Like always, I wanted to see what the data suggests.


We have almost no sample size for Daniel as he's played 2 games. We have a large sample size for Alex though. QB rating is extremely correlated to wins in the NFL. The average rating is 84: a team can expect an additional win (or loss) moving approximately 6 points from the median. Alex had a 93 rating and Daniel had a 75 rating today. That's an implied swing of 3 full games if we assume static performance.


While there is no way to know if Daniel would perform differently over the course of a season, it's doubtful any teams (or our own coaching staff) believe he could. Else, he'd be picked up as a starter. Whether Chiefs fans see any value finishing 9-7 vs 6-10 if you miss the playoffs regardless is another discussion.
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Old 12-29-2014, 02:20 AM   #301
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Except not even close.
Daniels, 157yds 0tds, 0int, team scored 19pts

Smith, 217yds, 1.2tds, .4int, team avg. 22.3 pts

That is pretty close. Especially with 3 days with the 1st unit.
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:30 AM   #302
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Chase Daniel is an equivalent version of Alex Smith, is anyone arguing otherwise?
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:34 AM   #303
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in order, here are the QB's I'd take in 2015 (1 year only - not considering future)

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Old 12-29-2014, 06:39 AM   #304
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A quarterback that can only run the read option and can't be trusted in the pocket in a pro-style offense is a gimmick at this level. Kraepernick sucks ass.
Plus, NFL defenses have caught up to the read option nowadays. It's not a surprise anymore.

That's why, eventually, you have to play in a real, pro-style offense.
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Daniels, 157yds 0tds, 0int, team scored 19pts

Smith, 217yds, 1.2tds, .4int, team avg. 22.3 pts

That is pretty close. Especially with 3 days with the 1st unit.
Meh, Daniel can run the offense...

But he's like my size - 6' and 200 lbs. Not exactly the stuff durable NFL QBs are made of. With no O-line, he would get murdered. That Steelers game would have killed Chase Daniel.

Alex Smith is a prototypical NFL pocket passer in size, athletic ability, and mobility. That's why he gets the nod over Daniel, that and experience.

What it all adds up to is...Al Smith is a starting caliber QB in this league and has started (and won) for every team he has played for since High school. Chase Daniel has started 2 games for 3 NFL teams in like 6 or 7 years and is 1-1.

It's not complicated.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:08 AM   #306
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Meh, Daniel can run the offense...

But he's like my size - 6' and 200 lbs. Not exactly the stuff durable NFL QBs are made of. With no O-line, he would get murdered. That Steelers game would have killed Chase Daniel.

Alex Smith is a prototypical NFL pocket passer in size, athletic ability, and mobility. That's why he gets the nod over Daniel, that and experience.

What it all adds up to is...Al Smith is a starting caliber QB in this league and has started (and won) for every team he has played for since High school. Chase Daniel has started 2 games for 3 NFL teams in like 6 or 7 years and is 1-1.

It's not complicated.

For our fanbase, it actually is.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:19 AM   #307
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I'm not a fan, but Daniel should be 2-0 as a starter.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:35 AM   #308
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Yards per attempt: Alex 7.0, Chase 5.6. Not sure what people saw that led them to believe Chase was throwing the ball downfield.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:38 AM   #309
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This whole thread is about an argument no one is making, except for one supposed dumbass at Arrowhead. Not one person on this board thinks Daniel should be the starter.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:20 PM   #311
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This whole thread is about an argument no one is making, except for one supposed dumbass at Arrowhead. Not one person on this board thinks Daniel should be the starter.
You should read the first several pages of the thread. You wouldn't make that argument if you did.
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You should read the first several pages of the thread. You wouldn't make that argument if you did.
So who said it?
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Old 12-29-2014, 02:27 PM   #313
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Yards per attempt: Alex 7.0, Chase 5.6. Not sure what people saw that led them to believe Chase was throwing the ball downfield.
Probably that -5 yard pass or all the dumpoffs or taking sacks in the redzone.

Smith daniels Donnie charlie Wong. Doesn't ****ing matter who's back there. Reid's offense is shit.
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Probably that -5 yard pass or all the dumpoffs or taking sacks in the redzone.

Smith daniels Donnie charlie Wong. Doesn't ****ing matter who's back there. Reid's offense is shit.
That's pretty much what it comes down to. I think Murray could be good in it once he gets some experience.
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