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Old 12-30-2014, 12:01 PM   #1
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stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.

Some key points when making this comparison:

Many have already mentioned the change in league-wide approach and passing yardage. That's a big factor. It's a much more pass-happy league now than it was then. Trent was 7th in passing yardage with that season. He would have been 15th this season. Big difference. There were 4 4000 yard passers in 2002. There were 11 this year.

But let's talk about YPA. Trent Green averaged 7.85 YPA which is almost a full yard better than Alex Smith this year and WAS THE TOP YPA IN THE LEAGUE. Smith ranked 24th this year with his paltry 7.03 YPA.

Trent Green did this with Eddie Kennison as his top WR and Marc Boerigter as his No. 2 WR, so it's not like he had a premium stable of stallions to throw the ball to, either. (He did, however, have Tony Gonzalez - though Kelce topped Gonzalez in catches, yards, and yards/catch).
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:29 PM   #2
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Some key points when making this comparison:

Many have already mentioned the change in league-wide approach and passing yardage. That's a big factor. It's a much more pass-happy league now than it was then. Trent was 7th in passing yardage with that season. He would have been 15th this season. Big difference. There were 4 4000 yard passers in 2002. There were 11 this year.

But let's talk about YPA. Trent Green averaged 7.85 YPA which is almost a full yard better than Alex Smith this year and WAS THE TOP YPA IN THE LEAGUE. Smith ranked 24th this year with his paltry 7.03 YPA.

Trent Green did this with Eddie Kennison as his top WR and Marc Boerigter as his No. 2 WR, so it's not like he had a premium stable of stallions to throw the ball to, either. (He did, however, have Tony Gonzalez - though Kelce topped Gonzalez in catches, yards, and yards/catch).
Don't knock Kennison. As I recall he had 2 or 3 straight 1000 yards (or close to it) receiving seasons. He was a 1st rounder that didn't do so well in his first couple of stops. But make no mistake, he was a good WR.
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:36 PM   #3
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Don't knock Kennison. As I recall he had 2 or 3 straight 1000 yards (or close to it) receiving seasons. He was a 1st rounder that didn't do so well in his first couple of stops. But make no mistake, he was a good WR.
Not knocking Eddie at all. I thiink he and Bowe are pretty comparable guys, actually.

Neither probably appreciated as much during their good years as they should have been.
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:45 PM   #4
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Not knocking Eddie at all. I thiink he and Bowe are pretty comparable guys, actually.

Neither probably appreciated as much during their good years as they should have been.
Kennison was much faster iirc.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:33 PM   #5
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Don't knock Kennison. As I recall he had 2 or 3 straight 1000 yards (or close to it) receiving seasons. He was a 1st rounder that didn't do so well in his first couple of stops. But make no mistake, he was a good WR.
And he something for the Donkeys' asses, that goes a long way ion my book.

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