Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs

[cmh6476]

stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

How many QBs often do? and who are they?

Guys like Montana, Brady, Peyton, Marino, etc.

The rarest of the rare, of which there are maybe 2-3 per decade.

My biggest criticism of Smith is that he's too nice - he needs to grab people by the face mask and scream in their faces. I would have been chewing WR ass and Oline ass everyday.

He doesn't seem to hold his teammates accountable, and Reid sure as **** doesn't. They just...sleepwalk.

But to say he SUCKS because he's not a Brady or Montana, that's laughable.

Alex Smith is better than the QB who replaced him SF, and that's no question. Kaep can't even read defenses and go through his progressions.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

It's kind of like the ouroboros.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Pablo

You're allowed to say the line sucked; or that our WR corps is sad. Those things are true.

It doesn't change the fact that Alex isn't worth his contract

The offensive line was bad and the WR's worse. When Reid properly game planned and schemed, the Chiefs won. When he didn't, the Chiefs lost.

Alex was worth $8.5 million this year. He's not worth $17.5 million and no amount of offensive line and receiving upgrades will ever change that fact, regardless of scheme and game planning.

Once again, the Chiefs screwed the pooch.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Stupid.



Did enough to get his team in the playoffs for four year straight. Literally what every Alex Smith fan says he is capable of doing.



****ing stupid.



Three superbowl rings among them with the possibility of a fourth (Because, remember, sneak into the playoffs and anything can happen).



Every one of these four but Tannehill would be better than KC has fielded since Green... And you can make the argument better than any QB the Chiefs have had since Montana.



If this were true than he would have been signed as a free agent from San Francisco. Or, you know, someone beside the most risk-averse franchise in KC would have tried to trade for the guy.

I was starting to do this, but you beat me to it.

rr -

If you truly believe Alex Smith is better than all of these guys, I don't know what to say. Other than you should probably watch more NFL games than Chiefs games once in a while.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by dls6501

You are kidding me right? The same Eli that just finished a season of 4,400 passing yards and 30 touchdowns? Oh ok.

How many interceptions did he throw?? How many games did they win??

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Stupid.



Did enough to get his team in the playoffs for four year straight. Literally what every Alex Smith fan says he is capable of doing.



****ing stupid.



Three superbowl rings among them with the possibility of a fourth (Because, remember, sneak into the playoffs and anything can happen).



Every one of these four but Tannehill would be better than KC has fielded since Green... And you can make the argument better than any QB the Chiefs have had since Montana.



If this were true than he would have been signed as a free agent from San Francisco. Or, you know, someone beside the most risk-averse franchise in KC would have tried to trade for the guy.

I looked up 'CP lexicon' in the dictionary and found your picture.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The offensive line was bad and the WR's worse. When Reid properly game planned and schemed, the Chiefs won. When he didn't, the Chiefs lost.

Alex was worth $8.5 million this year. He's not worth $17.5 million and no amount of offensive line and receiving upgrades will ever change that fact, regardless of scheme and game planning.

Once again, the Chiefs screwed the pooch.

Reid often game-planned exceptionally well. What confounded me is that the supposed best minds in professional football couldn't see for twelve games what a bunch of chronically masturbating message board posters saw after two preseason games: that Alex Smith refuses to throw the ball downfield and can easily be defended by flooding short zones or stacking the box and playing man coverage on the outside.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

How many QBs often do? and who are they?

Everybody talks about Smith in terms of game management. Maybe we should be talking about him in terms of being a system quarterback who needs perfect blocking and 5 yard clear receivers to execute at an above average level.

To answer your question, while I wouldn't want all of them, I think more than half the quarterbacks in the league are capable of it. I'm not just talking about Brady's and Brees'.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The offensive line was bad and the WR's worse. When Reid properly game planned and schemed, the Chiefs won. When he didn't, the Chiefs lost.

Alex was worth $8.5 million this year. He's not worth $17.5 million and no amount of offensive line and receiving upgrades will ever change that fact, regardless of scheme and game planning.
This
Once again, the Chiefs screwed the pooch.

This is all true.

Going into Oakland with not only the same game plan as the Seattle game but with the same play sheet is ****ing unforgivable.

No wonder it looked liked they knew exactly what plays the KC offense was going to run - they saw each one the previous Sunday.

I wonder if Reid even changed the 'first 15'??

[jd1020]

33% of Chiefs wins this season ended with Alex not throwing a TD pass.

50% in 2013.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Reid often game-planned exceptionally well. What confounded me is that the supposed best minds in professional football couldn't see for twelve games what a bunch of chronically masturbating message board posters saw after two preseason games: that Alex Smith refuses to throw the ball downfield and can easily be defended by flooding short zones or stacking the box and playing man coverage on the outside.

Aw ****, has my cam been on this whole time?

[Easy 6]

If Trent Green was in his second year at the helm of this team, we'd be salivating at the thought of crushing some hapless playoff victim.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Reid often game-planned exceptionally well. What confounded me is that the supposed best minds in professional football couldn't see for twelve games what a bunch of chronically masturbating message board posters saw after two preseason games: that Alex Smith refuses to throw the ball downfield and can easily be defended by flooding short zones or stacking the box and playing man coverage on the outside.

This is exactly why I've lost faith in Reid. He's got Doug Pedersen, Brad Childress, Chris Ault and David Culley on his offensive staff and Smith was their guy?

Alex played well the second half of 2013, especially in the playoff game, and I'd mistakenly believed he'd turned a corner. I thought the 2014 Chiefs would be easily a 11-12 game winner, despite the schedule.

Until the Tennessee game. Then the SF game. And later, the Raiders and Arizona game (I give the Broncos game a pass because of Eric Berry - it was understandable that they came out flat). And now, I've all but given up on this regime.

These guys were supposed to know better.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I take Smith over :
Cam
Dalton
Bridgewater
Ryan
Stafford
Eli
Flacco
Phyllis
&
Tannehill

Absolutely, Alex Smith is in the top 40% of NFL QBs.

you are ****ing reeruned.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Here's the difference:

Alex is able to affect the appearance of mediocrity by not taking chances. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's even average, but that he never puts himself in positions to get exposed (and on the rare occasions it does happen, he's shitiful).

You can say that Green was exposed when he was forced to pass, but if you look at his ability to lead 4th quarter drives, that criticism doesn't hold up.

I can say that I'm an elite driver because I've never gotten in a wreck, but if I've never gotten on an interstate and take back streets everywhere while never going above 30, how good am I? I've avoided the potential of a wreck, but I can't get you to the destination before the doors close.

The most deceptive part of Smith is that you can look at his stats and claim that he's an average or above average QB, but to me that's like looking at Cassel's inflated 2010 TD stats and saying he's a gunslinger when the reality is everyone sold out to stop the run and he tossed a bunch of 1 yard PA TDs to Bowe.

Smith is a stat whore just like Peyton Manning. The only difference is that his stats are INTs and completion percentage rather than things that matter, like yards and touchdowns.

Nailed it.