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Old 12-30-2014, 11:06 AM  
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Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs

stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.

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Old 12-31-2014, 07:32 AM   #406
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I commented on this earlier in the year and the vanilla-tards went ape $#it on me.

You don't trade for a QB that depends on A and B to be successful and then let A go to $3it and completely ignore B.

Look at it this way: Imagine if we did the Joe Montana trade only we didn't draft a single WR for two years and let 3/4th's of our offensive line leave...
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:32 AM   #407
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Wow, so you have to call plays with downfield routes first??

Crazy talk.
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:34 AM   #408
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Look at it this way: Imagine if we did the Joe Montana trade only we didn't draft a single WR for two years and let 3/4th's of our offensive line leave...
If that happened, I bet we'd lose the AFC Championship Game in year 1, then go 9-7 and get screwed in the wild card against Miami and then Montana would retire.

Just my guess.
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:44 AM   #409
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Wow, so you have to call plays with downfield routes first??

Crazy talk.
You understand that it takes time (seconds) for a WR to get downfield?

Yes?

And our O line can't block...like...at all. Every single play there's one free rusher on the QB.

There is no time.

We decided to go with a set of WR's that can't get open, run deep, and combined this ****ing winning strategy with an offensive line that can't pass block worth a ****.

Then, after trading for a QB that hate's to throw deep, we adopt a WCO with ****ing ZERO playmaking WR's and expect our HB/QB combo to compensate...
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If that happened, I bet we'd lose the AFC Championship Game in year 1, then go 9-7 and get screwed in the wild card against Miami and then Montana would retire.

Just my guess.
AND THAT'S WITH JOE MONTANA...
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You understand that it takes time (seconds) for a WR to get downfield?

Yes?

And our O line can't block...like...at all. Every single play there's one free rusher on the QB.

There is no time.

We decided to go with a set of WR's that can't get open, run deep, and combined this ****ing winning strategy with an offensive line that can't pass block worth a ****.

Then, after trading for a QB that hate's to throw deep, we adopt a WCO with ****ing ZERO playmaking WR's and expect our HB/QB combo to compensate...


Hey, you're preaching to the choir.

WRs are dogshit, Oline is dogshit, Reid's a great offensive mind but a TERRIBLE game day manager/playcaller...
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AND THAT'S WITH JOE MONTANA...
Because Chiefs???
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:55 AM   #414
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I love him on the broadcasts, glad he's representing the Chiefs well. Glad he made his home in KC, probably my 3rd favorite Chief. Pretty cool his BIL still posts on CP, too.

Your kids already have a better arm than you, or ... ?
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Old 12-31-2014, 08:00 AM   #415
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Well ... I implore you all to be Colts fans. Andrew Luck will dig them into a hole almost every game and sometimes he'll dig them out. I'm pretty sure if Luck was a Chief we'd probably have no more than 20 wins over the past two years and some would be wondering why he turns the ball over so god damn much and why he misses open receivers (like Alex Smith did with Wilson) so much. Because, news flash, if you watch the Colts you'll see a very inconsistent QB at this point.

But you know what he gets? He has everyone saying "well the Colts have a terrible line and terrible players around him. It's a 1 man team!"

...you say anything about Alex Smith and you get bombarded with "omg that's an excuse!"

You mention Andrew Luck and his inconsistency and someone will bring up 10 excuses and say that he single-handedly got them to the playoffs ..

you know

nevermind Alex Smith took over a 2-14 team and suddenly they were in the playoffs last year

...but he had NOTHING to do with that

It's just baffling. Either QB's or responsible for wins or they aren't. Or it's somewhere in between.

What I've found out is, if Aaron/Tom or Luck struggle, it's never their fault. They are their teams.

Alex Smith has had a top 5 winning % for the last 53 games he's started and according to this board, he, the QB, the most important position in sports, has nothing to do with that he just has elite talent around him.

Just stop.
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There wasn't a better option than Alex, and one has yet to present itself imo. Hate that ****ing contract though...
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Whew. Lot of truth in this post.
Just discovered something I hate more than the Alex is teh debbil brigade, . . . agreeing with Hootie.

**** all y'all in the ear.

I think I'm getting an ulcer.
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There wasn't a better option than Alex, and one has yet to present itself imo. Hate that ****ing contract though...
It can (and will) be restructured.

They made it that big initially so Alex could get a lot of upfront cash guaranteed on the front end.

He's not going to account for $17m against the cap for 3 years or whatever. That is just asinine to think that he would.
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Whew. Lot of truth in this post.
There is.

But don't feed...
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