This just in: Sugar is bad for you

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Originally Posted by lewdog

We are humans, we CAN and SHOULD make rational decisions about food. We SHOULD also stop blaming food companies when the average American consumer won't take the time to be even slightly educated about food or how to even read of food label.

Don't blame the food companies? This guy works for ****ing Nabisco

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Cmd'r&Chief

Don't blame the food companies? This guy works for ****ing Nabisco

Or Big Pharma/Med.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by lewdog

It's been mentioned before but rat studies are pretty much worthless. The rat judges it's eating based on it's brain's/body's reward response as it cannot rationalize.

Not all humans can rationalize or well enough. If we did, we wouldn't have an epidemic of obesity in this country not to mention adult diabetes.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by EPodolak

According to that movie, a rat addicted to cocaine and to sugar will choose to get his sugar fix first.

Rats are dumb.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by teedubya

Watch the documentary, Fed Up. It will infuriate you, how systematically the food industry adds salt and sugar to food to make you crave more of it.

Since I watched that on Oct 30th, I've cut all excess sugar, no sugary drinks, no processed sugar or white carbs... and I'm down 21.8 pounds.

I worked out ZERO times to see the effects without working out. Great jump start to the New Year.

-tw

That's simply because you are eating less calories. Sugary drinks can be a big culprit because they provide no nutritional value but take up way too much of a person's calorie intake for the day. Remove the 400-500 calories you might be getting from these drinks and replace with diet drinks or water and you'll lose weight. It's not because of the sugar.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by lewdog

That's simply because you are eating less calories. Sugary drinks can be a big culprit because they provide no nutritional value but take up way too much of a person's calorie intake for the day. Remove the 400-500 calories you might be getting from these drinks and replace with diet drinks or water and you'll lose weight. It's not because of the sugar.

Really? So if you eat 400-500 calories of cake and ice cream or cookies it's also not because of the sugar?

The excess calories come from the sugar in these drinks unless it's a cream based sugary drink then it comes from both.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Really? So if you eat 400-500 calories of cake and ice cream or cookies it's also not because of the sugar?

The excess calories come from the sugar in these drinks unless it's a cream based sugary drink then it comes from both.

You missed the point of my comment. TW said he lost weight because he cut out sugar. What he simply did was also cut out calories by cutting out sugar. He'd have lost the same weight if he cut out the same amount of calories but from fat as well. And yes, he will be healthier to decrease the amount of sugar he is taking in because he is decreasing his total caloric intake and losing weight. I'm just stating that it doesn't just have to be from sugar. I think you agree with that as well?

We aren't really disagreeing that much Buc. I still think personal accountability is a huge issue. EVERYONE knows eating shit all day is bad for you. Let's stop blaming the food companies though as I do like Oreos every week and I've managed to have them and not be fat. It's not the food companies fault the guy buying the same Oreos I am is having a pack a week and getting fat.

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Really? So if you eat 400-500 calories of cake and ice cream or cookies it's also not because of the sugar?

The excess calories come from the sugar in these drinks unless it's a cream based sugary drink then it comes from both.

I will never stop eating ice cream, never.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by teedubya

Watch the documentary, Fed Up. It will infuriate you, how systematically the food industry adds salt and sugar to food to make you crave more of it.

Since I watched that on Oct 30th, I've cut all excess sugar, no sugary drinks, no processed sugar or white carbs... and I'm down 21.8 pounds.

I worked out ZERO times to see the effects without working out. Great jump start to the New Year.

-tw

It's not BECAUSE of sugar. You're just taking in less calories than you're buring. You can be on an all chocolate cake diet and achieve the same results.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by -King-

It's not BECAUSE of sugar. You're just taking in less calories than you're buring. You can be on an all chocolate cake diet and achieve the same results.

You could eat Oreos all day long and lose weight if you wanted to. That would be a horrible, horrible idea though.

I think the important thing to note is that foods with excess amounts of added sugar (cookies, sodas, cakes, candy, etc) are the ones that do the most in significantly add to your daily caloric intake.

The guy you quoted said he lost 21 pounds so I'm assuming he was, and maybe still is, a fat shit. To a guy like that, it might be best to drop down to about 1800-2000 calories per day (depends though). If he drinks one glass of soda, he's already used up like 1/4 of his daily limit. Not to mention, those types of sugary foods/drinks are rarely ever satisfactory and tend to leave you wanting more.

[teedubya]

Originally Posted by -King-

It's not BECAUSE of sugar. You're just taking in less calories than you're buring. You can be on an all chocolate cake diet and achieve the same results.

Sugar converts into fat faster than fat turns into fat. Due to the lack of fiber. There are many ways to lose weight, certainly...

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by teedubya

Sugar converts into fat faster than fat turns into fat. Due to the lack of fiber. There are many ways to lose weight, certainly...

Carbs convert to energy faster than fat converts to energy. Fat can be converted to energy but it is longer and a much more inefficient process.

Fiber is not digestible, that is why to get net carbs you take carbs and subtract the fiber.

Fiber does help you feel full though.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Fiber does help you feel full though.

Fat too. Sits in the stomach longer.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by teedubya

Sugar converts into fat faster than fat turns into fat. Due to the lack of fiber. There are many ways to lose weight, certainly...

Fat doesn't contain fiber.....Fat is a macro-nutrient.

[BucEyedPea]

Hmmm inflammation and exercise—sounds like apples and oranges dog. Not the same thing.

Exercise and Chronic Inflammation

Systemic inflammation is a critical component in the development of cardiovascular disease. Individuals with chronic inflammation often have high levels of C-reactive protein -- a biomarker that correlates with the amount of inflammation in the body. Elevated C-reactive protein levels are significantly reduced in individuals who engage in moderate to intense physical activity compared to those who do not exercise.

Process of Inflammation

Youi can separate inflammation into two categories, acute inflammation which occurs over a short period of time and chronic inflammation which happens over longer time frames. Acute inflammation happens immediately following an injury. Blood flow will increase in the area around the injury, and fluid, blood proteins and white blood cells will move into the tissue. Inflammation is generally part of a healthy immune response; however, sometimes this process becomes uncontrolled. This may lead to a state of chronic inflammation that can trigger the development of diseases like atherosclerosis and cancer.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/45...n-in-the-body/

Sugar is now being found to be a factor in cardiovascular disease—less so fat. ( healthy fat that is). Plus sugar, as well as artificial sweeteners, make the body more acidic. PH balance is important.