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Old 01-03-2015, 02:06 PM   #1
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We all loved DT, but don't get carried away.

DT wasn't even the greatest Chiefs LB ever.

That distinction goes to Bobby Bell, who is not only the greatest Chief LB ever, but the greastest Chief ever.

I say this as a man whose favorite player ever is Willie Lanier, who would be 2nd on the list of great Chiefs LBs, just ahead of DT.
Thomas has longevity, but aside from that, I don't think he's as good as Houston. I would give him the edge in speed rushing, but I think Houston is a more complete pass rusher. I also think he's a much better run defender, and there is no comparison in their ability to cover.

Derrick Thomas is the most overrated Chief in history.
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Old 01-03-2015, 02:07 PM   #2
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Thomas has longevity, but aside from that, I don't think he's as good as Houston. I would give him the edge in speed rushing, but I think Houston is a more complete pass rusher. I also think he's a much better run defender, and there is no comparison in their ability to cover.

Derrick Thomas is the most overrated Chief in history.
Shitty human too.
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Old 01-03-2015, 02:50 PM   #3
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Shitty human too.
Talking out of your ass again. I knew DT-had many interactions with him-and he was far from a shitty human. He was funny, kind, generous -perfect no-but a great person and good to his fans and friends. Plus he started the 3rd and Long Foundation, NFL man of the Year. I got to spend a lot of time with him over many years with my job and I never saw him be a dick to anyone. Him and Dan Saleaumua were always a blast to be around. Class acts.

Far more than you have ever done- so how about shutting the **** up about things you know nothing about.
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Old 01-03-2015, 02:41 PM   #4
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Thomas has longevity, but aside from that, I don't think he's as good as Houston. I would give him the edge in speed rushing, but I think Houston is a more complete pass rusher. I also think he's a much better run defender, and there is no comparison in their ability to cover.

Derrick Thomas is the most overrated Chief in history.


Guess you never saw him play. I was at every game DT played at Arrowhead including playoffs and many road games his entire career. He was far from over rated. As Milk stated 3rd best in chiefs history. Hofer!

DT transformed this team to a playoff team-I am not sure how that is over rated. Nobody got the crowd going better than DT.
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Old 01-03-2015, 02:48 PM   #5
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Guess you never saw him play. I was at every game DT played at Arrowhead including playoffs and many road games his entire career. He was far from over rated. As Milk stated 3rd best in chiefs history. Hofer!

DT transformed this team to a playoff team-I am not sure how that is over rated. Nobody got the crowd going better than DT.
Marty Schottenheimer transformed the Chiefs.

They'd have been transformed regardless of DT's presence.
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Old 01-03-2015, 02:52 PM   #6
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Marty Schottenheimer transformed the Chiefs.

They'd have been transformed regardless of DT's presence.
We would have won a SB if it wasn't for Marty-stubborn bastard.

Marty didn't get 6 sacks in a game and hit Steve Young so hard he was puking on the field.

DT took over games. Not ****ing Marty Ball.
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Old 01-03-2015, 02:56 PM   #7
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We would have won a SB if it wasn't for Marty-stubborn bastard.

Marty didn't get 6 sacks in a game and hit Steve Young so hard he was puking on the field.

DT took over games. Not ****ing Marty Ball.
Agree to disagree. The Chiefs have failed to have back to back playoff appearances for 20 years, despite the head coach, and haven't had a win in 21.
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Agree to disagree. The Chiefs have failed to have back to back playoff appearances for 20 years, despite the head coach, and haven't had a win in 21.
Yep since DT died.
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Yep since DT died.
Then explain 1998 and 1999
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Old 01-03-2015, 05:35 PM   #10
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Agree to disagree. The Chiefs have failed to have back to back playoff appearances for 20 years, despite the head coach, and haven't had a win in 21.
You gotta admit it looks like those days are just about to come to an end.
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Old 01-03-2015, 05:32 PM   #11
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Marty Schottenheimer transformed the Chiefs.

They'd have been transformed regardless of DT's presence.
I think the Chiefs would have been a better team with Marty than without, but the transformation would have been much less without DT.

That defense, regardless of his other flaws as a run stuffer and in coverage, fed off his enthusiasm and emotion.

And even though Marty and the DC had to cover his flaws, there was no one better in backside pursuit in the run game.

I have often said that Gunther did more to contain DT than any OC.
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I have often said that Gunther did more to contain DT than any OC.
DTs sack numbers dropped after Gunther came to KC.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Thomas has longevity, but aside from that, I don't think he's as good as Houston. I would give him the edge in speed rushing, but I think Houston is a more complete pass rusher. I also think he's a much better run defender, and there is no comparison in their ability to cover.

Derrick Thomas is the most overrated Chief in history.
If you are talking about the perception by Chiefs fans, then I would agree with you.

On a national level, however, I would suggest that he is somewhat underrated.
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