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Old 01-16-2015, 10:40 PM  
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LNBS: Can Alex Smith be "Fixed"?
Part of me wants to think so.

We saw flashes in 2013 of him testing defenses downfield and being a lot more than a game manager.

Then his OL got severely downgraded through 3 big losses in free agency (all 3 got overpaid) and his 2 guards weren't even nfl quality, let alone starter quality.

His receivers needed a major upgrade last offseason (they were an obvious team weakness) and other than adding Jason Avant late in the year and developing a promising rookie in Albert Wilson...not a whole lot was done to help provide Alex Smith with adequate weapons. Losing Avery to injury further weakened an already subpar unit.

Here's my question:

If they improve the OL and receivers...will we see Alex Smith come out of his shell again (like we saw flashes of in the second half of 2013)?

If he does, how far can this team go if the defense plays like it has and Dee Ford steps into Hali's shoes adequately?
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:32 PM   #46
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Depends on the length of time he's asked to be great.

Aaron Rodgers has to be or is great all the time, basically. Alex Smith will never be that.

Great for a game? Sure.

Great for a 3 game playoff stretch? Dunno, doubtful.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:33 PM   #47
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Alex Smith will never be Troy Aikman or Joe Flacco, which is what you guys are hoping for.
Its not to make excuses for Smith, most of us are well past past that... but given Aikmans line from the 90's or even Flaccos serviceable line from last week... we would have seen better production, theres no question about it.

Smiths line was all timer bad in 2014, and he promptly played down to the internal competition... Smith is ****ed, but not blaming anything else is truly intellectually dishonest.

Smith sucks, the line sucks, the receivers sucked... its a perpetually compounding equation of suck. Get the mfer some real help and we just might make the AFCCG before we have to ditch his ass and start over.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:33 PM   #48
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Alex is 31. They need to try and drAft their high ceiling kid to sit and learn ala Rodgers.

I come into this year less prepared than most. Was very busy and didn't get to watch the qbs as much as I usually like to.

I like the prospect of Andy Reid being given a guy with top shelf tools to free up the cap space Chase Daniel takes up.
If anything, Daniel will get traded or be here. He isn't making that much.

They can free up money by cutting other shitbirds.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:33 PM   #49
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Albert Wilson will not have 1000 receiving yards in any season from Alex Smith.
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Alex Smith has thrown to 3 WRs that have 1000 yard seasons but he has never thrown 1000 yards to a receiver in a season. Giving him WRs is a waste of money.
That's why I prefer to draft them.

Dorsey had an eye for WR talent while scouting college players for GB.
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I don't think that Alex Smith will ever be "bad". He's a great leader, great personality, hard working and smart. I think that 2011-2013 proved that he can be good. I just don't think he'll ever be great.

I truly hope I'm wrong.
He had more than just the playoff game where he played at a high level.

He has flashed the ability to be a playmaker.
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Albert Wilson will not have 1000 receiving yards in any season from Alex Smith.
500 of it would be from YAC.
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Its not to make excuses for Smith, most of us are well past past that... but given Aikmans line from the 90's or even Flaccos serviceable line from last week... we would have seen better production, theres no question about it.

Smiths line was all timer bad in 2014, and he promptly played down to the internal competition... Smith is ****ed, but not blaming anything else is truly intellectually dishonest.

Smith sucks, the line sucks, the receivers sucked... its a perpetually compounding equation of suck. Get the mfer some real help and we just might make the AFCCG before we have to ditch his ass and start over.
You keep looking at averages. Consider a situation where the Chiefs are down 10 in the 3rd quarter and we are facing a good defense. The opponent's DL will get pressure and our WR won't get Alex Smith open. This will never be fixed.
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If anything, Daniel will get traded or be here. He isn't making that much.

They can free up money by cutting other shitbirds.
His cap hit is 4.8 million next year.

Cutting him saves 3.8 million.

That's a lot
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You keep looking at averages. Consider a situation where the Chiefs are down 10 in the 3rd quarter and we are facing a good defense. The opponent's DL will get pressure and our WR won't get Alex Smith open. This will never be fixed.
Like the Buffalo game this year?
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He had more than just the playoff game where he played at a high level.

He has flashed the ability to be a playmaker.
Sure but that playoff game was his career apex. It would be shocking if he could repeat that performance once, let alone multiple times per season. He's just never been that guy in the NFL.
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He's got too much of a mental block. I don't think he's got a gun slinger gene in him.
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Albert Wilson will not have 1000 receiving yards in any season from Alex Smith.
I think he is ultimately a slot receiver that can get you 800/8 every year if the top 2 wideouts are respected.

The guy was getting open and was on time so he gained a lot of trust from Alex as the season went on.

I really like that kid
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That's why I prefer to draft them.

Dorsey had an eye for WR talent while scouting college players for GB.
We drafted Bowe and he had three 1000 yard years and a 995 year with shit QBs before Alex Smith showed up.

Alex Smith becoming your QB is worse than getting Lyme disease if you are a WR.
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I think he is ultimately a slot receiver that can get you 800/8 every year if the top 2 wideouts are respected.

The guy was getting open and was on time so he gained a lot of trust from Alex as the season went on.

I really like that kid
I think he could play outside.

He seems to really have the mentality, Steve Smith kind of mentality (who he models his game after, or tries to) to play outside.
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