Chiefs LNBS: Can Alex Smith be "Fixed"? - Page 11

**BossChief** · 01-16-2015, 10:40 PM

Part of me wants to think so.

We saw flashes in 2013 of him testing defenses downfield and being a lot more than a game manager.

Then his OL got severely downgraded through 3 big losses in free agency (all 3 got overpaid) and his 2 guards weren't even nfl quality, let alone starter quality.

His receivers needed a major upgrade last offseason (they were an obvious team weakness) and other than adding Jason Avant late in the year and developing a promising rookie in Albert Wilson...not a whole lot was done to help provide Alex Smith with adequate weapons. Losing Avery to injury further weakened an already subpar unit.

Here's my question:

If they improve the OL and receivers...will we see Alex Smith come out of his shell again (like we saw flashes of in the second half of 2013)?

If he does, how far can this team go if the defense plays like it has and Dee Ford steps into Hali's shoes adequately?

ViperVisor · 01-17-2015, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The two areas where they're weak are two areas that Smith doesn't help... at all. He doesn't get rid of the ball quickly or read the blitz which doesn't help the OL.

Repeating this ignorance doesn't make it true.

stonedstooge · 01-17-2015, 07:48 AM

THAT DOG WON'T HUNT. Alex, the ultimate gun shy birddog

**ChiTown** · 01-17-2015, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Smith isn't going to magically become a qb he's never been.

Nothing else to say. The only question is whether we waste 4 or 5 years on him.

Expect max time. We love our average QB's in KC.

**BossChief** · 01-17-2015, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Expect max time. We love our average QB's in KC.

No way.

I guarantee that Andy isn't gonna sit back and put Alex on cruise control like Pioli did with Cassel.

If they out pieces around Alex and he doesn't step up, he will be gone.

**ChiTown** · 01-17-2015, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

No way.

I guarantee that Andy isn't gonna sit back and put Alex on cruise control like Pioli did with Cassel.

If they out pieces around Alex and he doesn't step up, he will be gone.

Oh, you are absolutely correct. I know that. The replacement for AS will be someone that looks and plays like him. Rinse and repeat. That was more my point.

**notorious** · 01-17-2015, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

"three yards and a cloud of tackled short of the marker" offense.

Alex runs a "3 yards and a cloud of checkdowns" offense.

**BossChief** · 01-17-2015, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Oh, you are absolutely correct. I know that. The replacement for AS will be someone that looks and plays like him. Rinse and repeat. That was more my point.

Based on what?

IMO Alex needs to be "Donovan McNabb" to keep the job long term.

I think Andy is gonna give Alex a pass this year because the line was so bad, but if he hasn't stepped up after next year...the end will be near for him.

That's the age Andy moved on from McNabb.

Hoover · 01-17-2015, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Based on what?

IMO Alex needs to be "Donovan McNabb" to keep the job long term.

I think Andy is gonna give Alex a pass this year because the line was so bad, but if he hasn't stepped up after next year...the end will be near for him.

That's the age Andy moved on from McNabb.

We will know a lot more on this subject if they restructure Alex's contract this offseason.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-17-2015, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor

Repeating this ignorance doesn't make it true.

I guess because pro football focus said so, it must be true. It's refreshing to know Alex Smith is middle of the pack considering the guy almost never throws deep and considering the number of times he has a 3 step drop by playcall design.

**RealSNR** · 01-17-2015, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

You live in MInnesota right?

I didn't watch much of them this year, but when I did, Bridgewater just seemed meh to me.

What am I missing with him?

The point is that I was told by a lot of Chiefs fans not to worry about the Alex Smith trade. Andy Reid wants to draft and develop his own QB just as much as we do, and at the first opportunity to take a quality QB that he can work with, that's exactly what would be done.

"Don't blame Andy Reid for this franchise's past failures in the QB realm."

"There wasn't anything good in 2013. You can't just draft a QB just to draft one."

Well there sat Bridgewater. And we passed on him just like King Carl would have done.

Dorsey/Reid are probably going to approach their next few drafts that way. "We don't need Rodgers, we have Green. We don't need any QB from the 2012 draft, we have Cassel." Rinse and ****ing repeat.

ViperVisor · 01-17-2015, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I guess because pro football focus said so, it must be true. It's refreshing to know Alex Smith is middle of the pack considering the guy almost never throws deep and considering the number of times he has a 3 step drop by playcall design.

Middle of the pack? "To Throw" means total time behind the LOS.
When you are a mobile QB who runs 3 times a game it is going to be higher. Even so it is lower than mostly all run threat QBs at the top of the list.

Look at Avg Time to Attempt. Quick, as expected with the offense KC schemed.

Look at the Sack Time. Lower and sometimes a lot lower than most of the scramble/run QBs.

Stop making up crap and educate yourself.

**BossChief** · 01-17-2015, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

The point is that I was told by a lot of Chiefs fans not to worry about the Alex Smith trade. Andy Reid wants to draft and develop his own QB just as much as we do, and at the first opportunity to take a quality QB that he can work with, that's exactly what would be done.

"Don't blame Andy Reid for this franchise's past failures in the QB realm."

"There wasn't anything good in 2013. You can't just draft a QB just to draft one."

Well there sat Bridgewater. And we passed on him just like King Carl would have done.

Dorsey/Reid are probably going to approach their next few drafts that way. "We don't need Rodgers, we have Green. We don't need any QB from the 2012 draft, we have Cassel." Rinse and ****ing repeat.

Andy Reid has NEVER held on to a quarterback too long.

O.city · 01-17-2015, 09:54 AM

While that's true, at some point here in KC, they're gonna have to show me.

So far they've done a great job at investing in the qb position with more total talent than we've had there in a while.

But it's all for naught if they don't find "the guy". Maybe they think they already have, I don't know

Hammock Parties · 01-17-2015, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor

Repeating this ignorance doesn't make it true.

LOL

You were spouting the same bullshit in the offseason.

Then Alex got sacked another 45 times.

LOL LOL LOL

He has been an oft-sacked QB ever since Harbaugh "fixed" him. And I bet he takes another 40+ sacks next year!

LOL LOL LOL

I bet if you look at his sacks per pass attempt over the last 4 seasons he's probably in the top 5.

Saccopoo · 01-17-2015, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

We will know a lot more on this subject if they restructure Alex's contract this offseason.

Dude...they are not going to restructure Smith's contract this off-season. He just signed the ****ing thing.

To quote Dane...

Jesus.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-775936	While that's true, at some point here in KC, they're gonna have to show me. So far they've done a great job at investing in the qb position with more total talent than we've had there in a while. But it's all for naught if they don't find "the guy". Maybe they think they already have, I don't know
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