Pats Cheating Comfirmed

[PizzaDoughz]

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

Discuss.

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If there were 11 deflated footballs used each and every time the Patriots had the ball offensively, and the Colts footballs weren't deflated, why didn't the referees take notice each time they touched the ball?

Because picking up a ball and setting it down again doesn't come close exerting enough pressure? Think about it. 10+ psi on the inside. How much pressure do you think you are applying from the outside when you pick it up?

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Patriots ran over the Colts. Destroyed them. The NFL could wipe the passing stats from the game and the Patriots still beat them handily.

Doesn't matter. That franchise needs to be hammered to the point where they'll never even think about cheating again. They need the NFL equivalent of the NCAA death penalty. It's the only way they'll ever stop doing it.

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Doesn't matter. That franchise needs to be hammered to the point where they'll never even think about cheating again. They need the NFL equivalent of the NCAA death penalty. It's the only way they'll ever stop doing it.

exaggerating

[RobBlake]

also, if they found that halftime.. then erase the first half offensive production.

[chiefzilla1501]

So here's the question...
If the Pats barely beat the Colts, how would people feel about this?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

So here's the question...
If the Pats barely beat the Colts, how would people feel about this?

But they didn't. They've dominated the Colts the past three times they've played them.

This is a non-issue to me.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by stevieray

I call bs....ball boys on the field...experienced line judges who handle balls on a continuous basis didn't notice, yet a LB catches an INT and figures it out?

Face it NFL...the Patriots are Just that WElLL COACHED,....

You can't help but be all jealous of a team who keeps plugging in guys year in and year out and continue to win when it matters most. When it's Denver cheating its ok because you aren't trying unless you do...but now we care?

I can't believe I'm going to say this but... This.

[DaneMcCloud]

Stevie is right: This is on the officials and the NFL.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But they didn't. They've dominated the Colts the past three times they've played them.

This is a non-issue to me.

I dont understand this logic. Prior to the game, they didnt know they were going to stomp them they way the did. If its true that they cheated, the score doesnt matter. Cheating is cheating.

I have absolutely nothing against the Pats, and was rooting for them on Sunday, but punishment is in order if the cheating is true.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But they didn't. They've dominated the Colts the past three times they've played them.

This is a non-issue to me.

Fair point that it may be as much on the refs... maybe entirely. But if NE is found to have intentionally cheated, then it shouldn't matter if it affected the outcome or not. Cheating is cheating regardless of the score.

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I can't believe I'm going to say this but... This.

Come on people. It's not that hard. A football weighs less than one pound. Do you really think your grip is applying enough pressure to notice a difference between 10.5 PSI and 12.5 PSI? This is not something you would notice unless you were looking for it.

Another example. How many times have you gotten a basketball out and not noticed a low pressure issue until dribbling and notice it doesn't bounce right? It's because you don't apply that much pressure when you grip things just to pick them up or hold them.

[L.A. Chieffan]

How does a deflated ball create an advantage? Are Brady's hands small?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by TimBone

I dont understand this logic. Prior to the game, they didnt know they were going to stomp them they way the did. If its true that they cheated, the score doesnt matter. Cheating is cheating.

I have absolutely nothing against the Pats, and was rooting for them on Sunday, but punishment is in order if the cheating is true.

I'll use a analogy that may make sense and may not.

I have 19 guitars and basses that I record on a regular basis. I've had them set up by a Master Luthier to be exactly as I specify: The E string can be no more than .75mm off the first fret. That's mandatory.

Now, even in a temperature controlled environment, I can pick up an instrument and immediately feel if it's different. It makes it so that I focus on the feel of the instrument instead of the piece of music I'm recording. It's distracting and before I know it, I've broken out the tools and wasted 30 minutes of my day getting it right.

Now, if I can feel a .01 mm difference in a guitar or bass, how is it that an NFL Referee or Umpire, both of whom come in contact with an NFL Football countless times before and during the game, can't tell if there's a 32 oz difference in the ball?

Personally, that tells me that it's not a significant difference and therefore, isn't a big deal.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Stevie is right: This is on the officials and the NFL.

What the ****?!

So I guess Taco was right and the US government is at fault for 9/11 since they didn't stop it.

Wow.

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

How does a deflated ball create an advantage? Are Brady's hands small?

Easier to grip under higher pressure. Less drops and fumbles.