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Old 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM  
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According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

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Old 01-21-2015, 01:46 PM   #391
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I am afraid you are incorrect, Mr. Donger. Boyle's states that at a constant temperature, the volume and pressure of gas are inversely correlated. Amonton's law states that at a constant volume, the pressure and temperature are inversely correlated. However, is the volume of a football constant? since when squeezed, the volume decreases, I would argue not.
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Combined Gas Law, is what I think I was going for. It's been a while for me...
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:07 PM   #392
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If you hammer the Pats, you better hammer every team that does this. The punishment would need to fit the crime, especially if the Pats are not alone in doing this, and just got caught. The real resolution here should be that the league changes their process of ball management.Does deflating balls, if that is what happened, deserve a worse punishment than the following?
The crime is not just deflating footballs... the crime is doing this AFTER getting exposed for SpyGate... this shows a pattern of cheating behavior.
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:12 PM   #393
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Science pretty much debunks this whole thing, regardless of how much we hate Brady.

-He prefers to throw with footballs that are lower in PSI.

-It was rainy.

-It's all but a guarantee that the Patriots submitted 11 footballs at 12.5 PSI and a kicking ball at at 13.5 PSI. It's just common sense.

Experts have shown that with the Gay-Lussac Law, a 20 degree drop in temperature, from a 70 degree room to a 50 degree playing field will result in a 1.5 to 1.75 drop in PSI for the footballs. That's EXACTLY the results we have seen here.

That 11 of these footballs were the exact same PSI tells my common sense that we are talking about Mother Nature here, not a sneaky ballboy with a needle and a couple extra hundred dollar bills in his pocket.
Were the Colts footballs also deflated? If not then why didn't your stated laws of physics/Mother Nature affect their footballs?
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So why did Luck play like $3it in the rest of his games?...
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:15 PM   #395
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So why did Luck play like $3it in the rest of his games?...
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The crime is not just deflating footballs... the crime is doing this AFTER getting exposed for SpyGate... this shows a pattern of cheating behavior.
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Apparently the 12th football was also underinflated, just not by as much as the other 11.
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The crime is not just deflating footballs... the crime is doing this AFTER getting exposed for SpyGate... this shows a pattern of cheating behavior.

Wait, are the Patriots on some kind of probation? If the Patriots do something wrong, whatever it is, not only does it get analyzed far more closely than if any other team in the NFL does it, the punishment should be harsher?

I assume this unwritten rule needs to stay in place until Brady/Belichick retire and the Patriots suck again? What happens if Garoppolo is really good and it turns into a Manning/Luck situation? Probation stays in place until he retires?

Or do the Krafts have to sell the team?

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I thought Luck playing like $3it had every bit as big an impact on that game as Brady's better velocity/grip on the ball...
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Wait, are the Patriots on some kind of probation? If the Patriots do something wrong, whatever it is, not only does it get analyzed far more closely than if any other team in the NFL does it, the punishment should be harsher?

I assume this unwritten rule needs to stay in place until Brady/Belichick retire and the Patriots suck again? What happens if Garoppolo is really good and it turns into a Manning/Luck situation? Probation stays in place until he retires?

Or do the Krafts have to sell the team?

Inquiring minds want to know.
Goodell put his neck out there one time and destroyed all of the evidence for the Patriots to maintain the league's integrity. He's probably not happy about having to do it again.
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Apparently the 12th football was also underinflated, just not by as much as the other 11.
Mumbles is reportedly furious with his staff for not deflating that one too.

I think it was hilarious that Goodell is in attendance at the Patriots home playoff games. you cant make this shit up.
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This has likely been posted but just in case:

Deflategate: NFL quarterbacks doctoring footballs is nothing new

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Deflategate: NFL quarterbacks doctoring footballs is nothing new

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/...is-nothing-new
Yes, and every example of doctoring balls so far has been pre-inspection, like Johnson scuffing the Super Bowl balls, or Rodgers having the balls over-inflated.

My problem with what the Patriots did is that it was post-inspection.
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My problem with what the Patriots did is that it was post-inspection.
It still hasn't been proven.

I just heard the Aaron Rodgers interview where he likes the ball to be over 13.5 and believes there should be a maximum PSI.

I think the fans are more upset about this revelation than the coaches, players and NFL admin.
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