Football Pats Cheating Comfirmed - Page 118

PizzaDoughz · 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

Discuss.

Katipan · 01-27-2015, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

For all the people out there saying this is no big deal, please read this article and then tell me; A. It's no big deal, B. Why it's not, and C. Whether or not you're okay with cheating.

What I want to tell you is that at first I read the author as "Warren Sapp." And for the life of me I couldn't figure out when he became a super articulate smarty pants.

**Ming the Merciless** · 01-27-2015, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

For all the people out there saying this is no big deal, please read this article and then tell me; A. It's no big deal, B. Why it's not, and C. Whether or not you're okay with cheating.

Im definitely not OK with cheating, and correct me if I am wrong but didnt Brady & the pats do better BEFORE the rule came into effect?

Like the whole 9-0 playoffs and superbowl rings etc...

now

I will stand by what I have said many times:

If the refs are checking these balls and passing them into the game...I dont have a problem

If the pats are fiddling with them (taking them into a bathroom and needle dicking them?) AFTER the balls are checked....

I do have a problem with that (it would be a big deal), no matter what the actual effect on the game is...even if it actually hurts the pats statistically..it would mean they are still trying to cheat.

**The Franchise** · 01-27-2015, 10:58 AM

Apparently Belichick only cared about fumbles starting in 2006. That's when he REALLY started harping on his players about it.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-27-2015, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan

What I want to tell you is that at first I read the author as "Warren Sapp." And for the life of me I couldn't figure out when he became a super articulate smarty pants.

I didn't even catch the name. If it was Sapp I probably wouldn't have bothered reading it. Lol

**The Franchise** · 01-27-2015, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Im definitely not OK with cheating, and correct me if I am wrong but didnt Brady & the pats do better BEFORE the rule came into effect?

Like the whole 9-0 playoffs and superbowl rings etc...

You mean Spygate? Yeah....they were really good when they could....you know....cheat.

Just Passin' By · 01-27-2015, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Speaking of science, Neil Degrasse Tyson (who knows a little bit about science) and Bill Nye, the SCIENCE guy both say the "atmospheric conditions" excuse is complete bullshit (paraphrased). So does the manufacturer, Wilson.

Tyson got his numbers wrong, and Nye didn't actually do any math or testing. The Wilson guy was just a company rep in a booth, and he's a Browns fan.

Keep trying, though. You seem to need this.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-27-2015, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Im definitely not OK with cheating, and correct me if I am wrong but didnt Brady & the pats do better BEFORE the rule came into effect?

Like the whole 9-0 playoffs and superbowl rings etc...

now

I will stand by what I have said many times:

If the refs are checking these balls and passing them into the game...I dont have a problem

If the pats are fiddling with them (taking them into a bathroom and needle dicking them?) AFTER the balls are checked....

I do have a problem with that (it would be a big deal), no matter what the actual effect on the game is...even if it actually hurts the pats statistically..it would mean they are still trying to cheat.

That article I quoted has some pretty interesting statistics on what happened starting immediately after teams were allowed to use their own balls in 2007.

Tl;Dr the Pats have nearly an impossible rate on fumbling. Like, they never do it. It's ****ing nuts. Give the article a read bro.

I'm not ready to tear and father anyone yet, we don't know enough. But it sure ****ing looks like the Pats are a bunch of cheating ****heads.

**Ming the Merciless** · 01-27-2015, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

Apparently Belichick only cared about fumbles starting in 2006. That's when he REALLY started harping on his players about it.

didnt the pats win their rings in 2002 , 2004 & 2005

im not sure

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-27-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Cheatin' To Get By

Tyson got his numbers wrong, and Nye didn't actually do any math or testing. The Wilson guy was just a company rep in a booth, and he's a Browns fan.

Keep trying, though. You seem to need this.

Bill Nye is a ****ing Seattle guy. **** anything he has to say. This is a bigger deal in Seattle than anywhere.

Beef Supreme · 01-27-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

didnt the pats win their rings in 2002 , 2004 & 2005

im not sure

That was when they were spying.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-27-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

didnt the pats win their rings in 2002 , 2004 & 2005

im not sure

Spygate. I'd show you the evidence but it's been destroyed.

**Ming the Merciless** · 01-27-2015, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

You mean Spygate? Yeah....they were really good when they could....you know....cheat.

i was under the impression that spygate was video taping of the jets at a home game walkthrough

i honestly dont know jack about it or how it would would effect multiuple seasons or away games, like superbowls

**Baby Lee** · 01-27-2015, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I didnt read this before, sorry if Q....

but prior to 2006, there was no "12 balls per team"

it was 24 balls and both teams shared them.......

the NFL changed the rule in 2006 to divide the balls and let away teams bring 12 balls

Pursuant to lobbying by. . . . You guessed it*

* - just kidding, it was Brady.

ghak99 · 01-27-2015, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I didnt read this before, sorry if Q....

but prior to 2006, there was no "12 balls per team"

it was 24 balls and both teams shared them.......

the NFL changed the rule in 2006 to divide the balls and let away teams bring 12 balls

Was this when Brady and Manning figured out they like their balls prepared in different ways and lobbied to get the rules changed?

**The Franchise** · 01-27-2015, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

i was under the impression that spygate was video taping of the jets at a home game walkthrough

i honestly dont know jack about it or how it would would effect multiuple seasons or away games, like superbowls

There's reports that they recorded the Rams walkthrough before the SB back in 2001. Marshall Faulk still ****ing claims that.

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