Football Pats Cheating Comfirmed - Page 132

PizzaDoughz · 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

Discuss.

**The Franchise** · 01-28-2015, 03:50 PM

Belichick's response during Spygate : In a February 17, 2008 interview with The Boston Globe, Belichick denied ever taping another team's walkthrough practice, saying that "I have never authorized, or heard of, or even seen in any way, shape, or form any other team's walkthrough. We don't even film our own. ...[in my] entire coaching career, I have never filmed a walkthrough, our own. I've never been on a staff that has filmed a walkthrough. I'm talking about when I was a head coach. As an assistant, I've never seen a head coach film a walkthrough the day before a game."

Sounds awfully familiar.

ClevelandBronco · 01-28-2015, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

The Black Sox' reputation still hasn't recovered, and that scandal happened in 1919. Belicheat and Brady will be remembered as cheaters above all else, it is what it is. If they didn't want to go out like that, they shouldn't have cheated.

Who?

GoChargers · 01-28-2015, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Who?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sox_Scandal

Everyone involved was banned for life and they're still ineligible for the Hall of Fame even today.

Amnorix · 01-28-2015, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

Belichick's response during Spygate : In a February 17, 2008 interview with The Boston Globe, Belichick denied ever taping another team's walkthrough practice, saying that "I have never authorized, or heard of, or even seen in any way, shape, or form any other team's walkthrough. We don't even film our own. ...[in my] entire coaching career, I have never filmed a walkthrough, our own. I've never been on a staff that has filmed a walkthrough. I'm talking about when I was a head coach. As an assistant, I've never seen a head coach film a walkthrough the day before a game."

Sounds awfully familiar.

Right, except taping walkthroughs is NOT what Spygate was about. Not at all.

The report about taping walkthroughs was later RETRACTED by the reporter who reported on it, who also apologized.

And you wonder why I defend them? Because the haters can't even get basic facts right. They just want to smear them with labels without knowing or caring what the FACTS are. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

GoChargers · 01-28-2015, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Right, except taping walkthroughs is NOT what Spygate was about. Not at all.

The report about taping walkthroughs was later RETRACTED by the reporter who reported on it, who also apologized.

And you wonder why I defend them? Because the haters can't even get basic facts right. They just want to smear them with labels without knowing or caring what the FACTS are. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

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"I understand Bill [Belichick] is a great coach," Faulk told Curran. "But No. 13 [Kurt Warner] will tell you ... Mike Martz will tell you ... We had some plays in the red zone that we hadn't ran. I think we got to fourth down -- we ran three plays that we hadn't ran, that Mike drew up for that game. Bill's a helluva coach … we hadn't ran them the whole year [and the Patriots were ready for them]." And the only time that Rams practiced those plays? At the walkthrough.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...ss-to-patriots

Gee, I wonder how that happened?

Discuss Thrower · 01-28-2015, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

Belichick's response during Spygate : In a February 17, 2008 interview with The Boston Globe, Belichick denied ever taping another team's walkthrough practice, saying that "I have never authorized, or heard of, or even seen in any way, shape, or form any other team's walkthrough. We don't even film our own. ...[in my] entire coaching career, I have never filmed a walkthrough, our own. I've never been on a staff that has filmed a walkthrough. I'm talking about when I was a head coach. As an assistant, I've never seen a head coach film a walkthrough the day before a game."

Sounds awfully familiar.

Dunno how anyone believes that he didn't know anything.

1) The type of people who become coaches *typically* have a personality that relies on control. Just by the nature of what they do, as their job is 100% reliant upon getting a group of people to act in a specific manner to carry out a coach's plan. This bleeds over from the field or the court to anything ancillary related to the game. Wearing shirts and ties on gameday. Being ten minutes early to practice means you're five minutes late. Et cetera.

A coach *will* know about what's going on with his (or her) team as it pertains to the game.

2) One of the highest profile personalities to come out of Belichik's regime was Pioli. We all know what kind of borderline psychotic things that nutjob did.

Amnorix · 01-28-2015, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Probably the Rams walkthrough was the big one.

Except they didn't record that. Good try attempting to pin something on them that they didn't do, however. I know facts are inconvenient sometimes.

BucEyedPea · 01-28-2015, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Right, except taping walkthroughs is NOT what Spygate was about. Not at all.

The report about taping walkthroughs was later RETRACTED by the reporter who reported on it, who also apologized.

True enuff!

I thought I saw someone defend the "walk through" charge using a player on the losing team. Thought it was in this thread even.

Hootie · 01-28-2015, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Except they didn't record that. Good try attempting to pin something on them that they didn't do, however. I know facts are inconvenient sometimes.

Well, gee. Who knows? All the evidence was destroyed.

Be as big of a homer as you want ... destroying the evidence was an insane way to show the Patriots cheating wasn't a competitive advantage ... agree? Or are you going to keep being naive?

Shredding documents and video is usually a good way of proving innocence, right?

Or, realistically, the evidence was so damning it was the only way to protect the shield.

BucEyedPea · 01-28-2015, 04:08 PM

Looks like it was Go Making Charges relying on a sore loser set of players. He likes teams that blame others for their losses. Oh wait! His team loses to the Patriots.

Hootie · 01-28-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Except they didn't record that. Good try attempting to pin something on them that they didn't do, however. I know facts are inconvenient sometimes.

It's a fact, eh? Marshall Faulk doesn't think so. But I guess I'll take ASTERIX' word on it over a well respected hall of famer who happened to play in that game. But, again, all evidence was destroyed to protect the shield so you're right ... Who knows?

Hootie · 01-28-2015, 04:10 PM

Walsh would've been the first person to ever change his story after being threatened by a billion dollar corporation with its integrity on the line ... right?

BucEyedPea · 01-28-2015, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

It's a fact, eh? Marshall Faulk doesn't think so. But I guess I'll take ASTERIX' word on it over a well respected hall of famer who happened to play in that game. But, again, all evidence was destroyed to protect the shield so you're right ... Who knows?

Sore losers usually have an axe to grind. He's bitter. It's understandable though.

**Ming the Merciless** · 01-28-2015, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

It's a fact, eh? Marshall Faulk doesn't think so. But I guess I'll take ASTERIX' word on it over a well respected hall of famer who happened to play in that game.

If that player wasn't a Ram, you'd have a point

but I would take his opinion as biased , personally...

the Boston herald (who "broke" the fake rams story) has since come out and apologized and said they should not have run the story. They admit they didnt have anything but an anonymous source with no evidence and shouldnt have run with it.

Hootie · 01-28-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

If that player wasn't a Ram, you'd have a point

but I would take his opinion as biased , personally...

the Boston herald (who "broke" the fake rams story) has since come out and apologized and said they should not have run the story. They admit they didnt have anything but an anonymous source with no evidence and shouldnt have run with it.

Again...

Walsh would've been the first person to ever change his story after a shake down. Totally.

Here's the kicker: if the NFL didn't want speculation, they shouldn't have DESTROYED the evidence.

They did, and because of this it would be NAIVE to not assume the DESTROYED evidence wasn't EXTREMELY damning.

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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	Belichick's response during Spygate : In a February 17, 2008 interview with The Boston Globe, Belichick denied ever taping another team's walkthrough practice, saying that "I have never authorized, or heard of, or even seen in any way, shape, or form any other team's walkthrough. We don't even film our own. ...[in my] entire coaching career, I have never filmed a walkthrough, our own. I've never been on a staff that has filmed a walkthrough. I'm talking about when I was a head coach. As an assistant, I've never seen a head coach film a walkthrough the day before a game." Sounds awfully familiar.
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BucEyedPea Here comes Peter Cottontail! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: None of your business Casino cash: $-200037	Looks like it was Go Making Charges relying on a sore loser set of players. He likes teams that blame others for their losses. Oh wait! His team loses to the Patriots. __________________ Hello, Bearcat. Two Questions: Are you Malcor? Because call-out threads don't get moved to the Romper Room, but asking who Malcor is, as in being mult was moved there. Only a mod can do that. Why is DC getting over-moderated these days?
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Walsh would've been the first person to ever change his story after being threatened by a billion dollar corporation with its integrity on the line ... right?
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