Pats Cheating Comfirmed

[PizzaDoughz]

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

Discuss.

[Hootie]

Seriously. Until deflate-gate, spygate was already swept under the rug.

I'd bring it up in Brady threads and no one even cared. That's what destroying evidence did.

It took a scandal and made it moot in less than a decade.

Embarrassing and sad.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Bingo!

In what way might these tapes be damaging to the NFL and not the Patriots, I wonder.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

No. **** you.

Explain to me what destroying evidence means to you and what benefit it has...

Stop deflecting.

I'm not deflecting. You brought up Faulk, not me. Now you're trying to go back to the same tired bullshit.

Look, we both know that you ignore all the proof, and that you go back the same boring attacks again and again. We've seen in thread after thread. It's how you troll.

I'm too bored with that to be bothered any more. Faulk's idiotic whining about the red zone is at least a new (to you) approach. C'mon. Give it a shot.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I'd bring it up in Brady threads and no one even cared.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

In what way might these tapes be damaging to the NFL and not the Patriots, I wonder.

Because a team that cheated to gain an edge just won 3 out of 5 Super Bowls using cheating tactics.

It could've gravely hurt the league. The evidence was destroyed and sanctions levied to try and save face and be able to "penalize" the team and save face in one swoop.

Destroyed evidence allowed them to paint the story in a way least damaging to the NFL while satisfying the public by levying fines and taking a draft pick.

I can guarantee you the stuff on those tapes were 10 X worse than anyone even wants to imagine.

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I'd honestly love to hear the response to this. I've never heard a remotely satisfactory one.

Try this one: The evidence was none of your business, so they didn't bother to share it with you. Don't feel left out. They didn't share it with me either. Satisfactory?

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I'm not deflecting. You brought up Faulk, not me. Now you're trying to go back to the same tired bullshit.

Look, we both know that you ignore all the proof, and that you go back the same boring attacks again and again. We've seen in thread after thread. It's how you troll.

I'm too bored with that to be bothered any more. Faulk's idiotic whining about the red zone is at least a new (to you) approach. C'mon. Give it a shot.

What ****ing proof? It was DESTROYED. DESTROYED. ALL PROOF DESTROYED.

What don't you get?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

What ****ing proof? It was DESTROYED. DESTROYED. ALL PROOF DESTROYED.

What don't you get?

The Rams only got into the red zone once in that game, dumbass. The result was a TD.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

What ****ing proof? It was DESTROYED. DESTROYED. ALL PROOF DESTROYED.

What don't you get?

Using the cap lock is the same as yelling at someone. Not a sign of calmness.

Now calm down.

[Hootie]

what the **** is this guy talking about?!

I'LL ASK AGAIN:

Why is evidenced destroyed?

I eagerly await your answer.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

what the **** is this guy talking about?!

I'LL ASK AGAIN:

Why is evidenced destroyed?

I eagerly await your answer.

The only one who knows the answer is Goodell.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by PizzaDoughz

No it's not exactly the same. Occasionally, people do that to put emphasis on it for dumbasses or people ignoring important parts of an argument

It can but his doesn't come across like that...not with his generally inflammatory tone.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The Rams only got into the red zone once in that game, dumbass. The result was a TD.

Faulk never said more than one redzone occurence. He said that they ran 3-4 plays that they had never done before and only showed during the walkthrough....and the Patriots had an answer for everyone.

1 9 NWE 9 Kurt Warner pass complete to Jeff Robinson for 6 yards (tackle by Lawyer Milloy) 3 17 5.14 5.53 83.9
4 10:39 2 3 NWE 3 Kurt Warner pass incomplete intended for Az-Zahir Hakim (defended by Lawyer Milloy) 3 17 5.53 4.72 88.4
4 10:34 3 3 NWE 3 Kurt Warner pass incomplete intended for Isaac Bruce (defended by Ty Law) 3 17 4.72 3.04 93.3
4 10:29 3 3 NWE 3 Timeout #3 by St. Louis Rams 3 17 0 0
4 10:29 4 3 NWE 3 Kurt Warner right end for no gain (tackle by Roman Phifer). Kurt Warner fumbles (forced by Roman Phifer), recovered by Tebucky Jones at NWE-3 and returned for 97 yards. Penalty on Willie McGinest: Defensive Holding, 2 yards (no play) 3 17 3.04 6.97 79.2
4 10:09 1 1 NWE 1 Marshall Faulk right guard for -1 yards (tackle by Willie McGinest and Bryan Cox) 3 17 6.97 5.72 85.6
4 9:33 1 1 NWE 1 Timeout #2 by New England Patriots 3 17 0 0
4 9:33 2 2 NWE 2 Kurt Warner up the middle for 2 yards, touchdown 9 17 5.72 7 85.8
4 9:33 NWE 2 Jeff Wilkins kicks extra point good

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Try this one: The evidence was none of your business, so they didn't bother to share it with you. Don't feel left out. They didn't share it with me either. Satisfactory?

Nope. But I know you don't mind if teams cheat, so our definition of satisfactory explanation is probably pretty different.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

Faulk never said more than one redzone occurence. He said that they ran 3-4 plays that they had never done before and only showed during the walkthrough....and the Patriots had an answer for everyone.

1 9 NWE 9 Kurt Warner pass complete to Jeff Robinson for 6 yards (tackle by Lawyer Milloy) 3 17 5.14 5.53 83.9
4 10:39 2 3 NWE 3 Kurt Warner pass incomplete intended for Az-Zahir Hakim (defended by Lawyer Milloy) 3 17 5.53 4.72 88.4
4 10:34 3 3 NWE 3 Kurt Warner pass incomplete intended for Isaac Bruce (defended by Ty Law) 3 17 4.72 3.04 93.3
4 10:29 3 3 NWE 3 Timeout #3 by St. Louis Rams 3 17 0 0
4 10:29 4 3 NWE 3 Kurt Warner right end for no gain (tackle by Roman Phifer). Kurt Warner fumbles (forced by Roman Phifer), recovered by Tebucky Jones at NWE-3 and returned for 97 yards. Penalty on Willie McGinest: Defensive Holding, 2 yards (no play) 3 17 3.04 6.97 79.2
4 10:09 1 1 NWE 1 Marshall Faulk right guard for -1 yards (tackle by Willie McGinest and Bryan Cox) 3 17 6.97 5.72 85.6
4 9:33 1 1 NWE 1 Timeout #2 by New England Patriots 3 17 0 0
4 9:33 2 2 NWE 2 Kurt Warner up the middle for 2 yards, touchdown 9 17 5.72 7 85.8
4 9:33 NWE 2 Jeff Wilkins kicks extra point good

I know what he said. What he said was idiotic. The data, and the game tape, show it.