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ArrowheadHawk · 07:58 PM

11 straight Conference Championships!

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Bambi · 01-31-2015, 12:49 PM

It's hilarious that MU fans hold getting into the SEC after they were rejected from the B1G as their crowning achievement in sports.

They are a group of people who I'm not sure get what this is all about.

Alabama, LSU, etc all welcomed in football programs they couple beat and nothing has changed in that regard.

I never thought MU Basketball would be the laughing-stock that it is today but oh well, good luck to them.

Prison Bitch · 01-31-2015, 01:32 PM

Texas A&M has been the same exact way. I have wondered about Nebraska's take on their new digs. They've completely fallen off the KC media radar though so you have to hit up their message boards to find out I suppose. Billay seems thrilled with the Corn's new place in college sports.

Silock · 01-31-2015, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

The quotes from Self above seem to say to me anyway, that he thinks the KU/MU rivalry has benefits to KU.

I don't see a home/home but a neutral site like Sprint center.

I don't think he said that at all.

BWillie · 01-31-2015, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Meh. I miss it and I feel a lot of the campus does too. Sometimes I feel sports should just be about the rivalries over the marketing, and plus, you can't tell me that we're somehow benefitting more from playing Towson and Louisiana Tech in AFH than we would be by playing Mizzou.

Pinkel has said he'd schedule us again in football in a heartbeat. Some will disagree, but I feel there would be reciprocated benefits to both programs if we scheduled the games in both football and basketball. Plus, c'mon, there are few rivalries that can match the historical hatred between the sports teams and the communities that surround our programs.

Absolutely.

Silock · 01-31-2015, 06:57 PM

No one has yet named the benefits. People outside of KU and MU don't care that we hate each other. It has little national draw. It would if MU were consistently good in basketball, but they're not, so no one cares.

BWillie · 01-31-2015, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

No one has yet named the benefits. People outside of KU and MU don't care that we hate each other. It has little national draw. It would if MU were consistently good in basketball, but they're not, so no one cares.

People in Kansas and Missouri casually care about other rivalries in sports. Duke vs Carolina, Ohio State vs Michigan, Oklahoma vs Texas. Hell, even Army Navy. Rivalries are good for a program PERIOD. It's extremely short sighted to believe that nobody outside of KS and MO tune in or follow the rivalry. Especially being that the rivalry goes beyond sports, and is a century old. We benefit more from it on the football side, which an argument could even be made that it's even more important.

Al Czervik · 01-31-2015, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Some of you have short memories. The Big 12 was in some trouble and they bailed. Their fanbase also rooted for the collapse and for KU to "get screwed" in realignment. For that simple fact: any KU fan worth his salt would hope that school burns in hell.

To be honest I never hated them to the extent I do now until they rooted for the Big 12 collapse. If KU ever re-scheduled them, we'd be the most pathetic saps in world history.

Bingo....**** em....they walked away the from conference...and the rivalry.....
Wonder if some of you that want to play them again would take your wife or GF back after
****ing your neighbor....No Thanks

**RealSNR** · 01-31-2015, 08:04 PM

Andrew Wiggins has 23 points in the first half against Lebron James tonight

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-31-2015, 09:55 PM

Save your strength, America: Jayhawks say they 'owe' one to Iowa State

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- So now the page turns, happily, knuckles cracking.
"We owe them," Kelly Oubre Jr. said.
"We owe them," Wayne Selden said.
The "them" is No. 15 Iowa State, the "we" is No. 9 Kansas and the cage is the venerable Allen Fieldhouse on Monday night, the tail end of National Super Bowl Hangover Recovery Day.
"They beat us. That simple. They beat us," Oubre offered Saturday following KU's 68-57 win over Kansas State. "We took our first loss in the Big 12 (to Iowa State), and we owe them one.
"We could be undefeated right now. That's the way I look at it. So we owe 'em one."
Save your strength, America.
The last time they touched gloves, the Cyclones (16-4, 6-2) ran the Jayhawks (18-3, 7-1) out of the gym. Literally. Team Hoiberg collected 21 fast-break points, Team Self had just 10 and KU fell at Hilton Coliseum, 86-81, on Jan. 17, its second setback to Iowa State in 10 months.
"Transition buckets," Selden said when asked what images from Ames wound up seared into his brain. "And them getting a lot of easy buckets. You know, that's one thing we really don't want to do is give anybody easy buckets, and we gave them easy points."
There's a theme there, at least in the KU camp, and it's that Round 1 was a giveaway of sorts -- a letdown, an "effort" thing.
And nothing -- nothing -- gets under coach Bill Self's epidermis quite like "effort" things, boys and girls. To paraphrase Ike and Tina Turner's version of "Proud Mary," KU doesn't want any opponent to get away with anything nice and easy.
"They made us look foolish many possessions there in Ames," Self said. "Even though it was a two-possession game late, we didn't put our best foot forward there."
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That best foot was forward Saturday, especially early, and usually up the Wildcats' collective backsides. The hosts raced out to a 20-5 lead in the tilt's first eight minutes, working the Allen Fieldhouse crowd into the usual lather. Even with Kansas State's basketball profile up to a decade of relevance now, this series still plays out largely like a driveway game, one in which the Wildcats are the 11-year-old, flailing and reaching for the ball. The Jayhawks, on the other hand, are the 16-year-old big brother, protecting the rock with one hand and stiff-arming the little guy with the other.
Little Brother is 4-49 in his past 53 meetings with KU, which is why Little Brother is referred to as such in Kansas circles. That and the fact that the Jayhawks have won the past nine in Lawrence by an average margin of 18.4 points.
So, in a sense, this one was close, relatively speaking. Or less egregious. At least the zebras felt compelled to let 'em play.
Or rather, let 'em miss. The Wildcats' 17 percent clip from the floor in the first period was the fourth-worst shooting half in the program's history.
"Obviously, if you're going to come in here you have to guard them and fight them," said K-State coach Bruce Weber, who fell to 0-3 with the 'Cats at the Phog. "I'm not saying with fists -- you have to battle them. If you don't do that, if you think you're going to go in and just be pretty soft, you aren't going to win."
K-State (12-10, 5-4) got off the mat, shifting the narrative to trading-baskets mode in the final 20 minutes, but were never able to cut the KU lead to single digits, never able to mount a consistent threat, despite 13 second-half points from Marcus Foster. Meanwhile, the Jayhawks continued their trend of napping for 10-to-12-minute stretches in the second half after a big lead. A trait that also gets under the skin of you-know-who a bit.
"It's like Sybil -- we've got multiple personalities within the game," Self cracked. "That's what's frustrating."
Alas, the 'Cats were a Foster short of making this one truly interesting. But it wasn't for lack of want-to: During one early timeout, a red-faced Weber was captured on social media turning magenta with anger in the huddle, ripping a staffer's clipboard out of the poor guy's hands and hurling it to the ground in rage.
"I was just disappointed," Weber said later. "And we talked about not going 1-on-1, and having some pride and guarding, not just letting them dribble down the lane and make layups."
The Jayhawks collected 38 points in the paint, 22 in the first half, to K-State's 24 and 10. Although after losing by 21 and 26 in his past two trips to Naismith Drive, an 11-point deficit felt almost close enough for Weber to touch. Almost.
"They just out-grinded us," Weber said.
It was a grindy tilt and a star-studded crowd: Among the notables spotted in the crowd were Royals Eric Hosmer, Sal Perez, Mike Moustakas and Jarrod Dyson; Chiefs linebacker Derrick Johnson; and former KU standouts Sherron Collins, Scot Pollard and Eric Chenowith.
Saturday belonged to the stars. Monday? Monday is about the stakes. And if you don't believe us, ask the Cyclones' Naz Long:

Time to settle it. Once and for all.

http://www.foxsports.com/kansas-city...yclones-013115

Silock · 01-31-2015, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

People in Kansas and Missouri casually care about other rivalries in sports. Duke vs Carolina, Ohio State vs Michigan, Oklahoma vs Texas. Hell, even Army Navy. Rivalries are good for a program PERIOD. It's extremely short sighted to believe that nobody outside of KS and MO tune in or follow the rivalry. Especially being that the rivalry goes beyond sports, and is a century old. We benefit more from it on the football side, which an argument could even be made that it's even more important.

So, you think more people are going to watch KU vs MU than would otherwise watch a nationally televised KU game?

Chiefspants · 01-31-2015, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

So, you think more people are going to watch KU vs MU than would otherwise watch a nationally televised KU game?

I would hate it if our game against lowly MU hurt ratings that would otherwise go toward our nationally televised games against Rider, UC Santa Barbara, Louisiana Lafayette or Kent State.

Silock · 01-31-2015, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I would hate it if our game against lowly MU hurt ratings that would otherwise go toward our nationally televised games against Rider, UC Santa Barbara, Louisiana Lafayette or Kent State.

We'll have 6 games that would be on ESPN3/Jayhawk network only. MU wouldn't be one of those games, most likely. If it is, then that would be even more reason NOT to schedule them. Only gives them exposure.

The rest of our games are going to be nationally televised. So, would you be willing to replace a ranked team with a significantly higher viewership with MU? Doesn't make sense.

BWillie · 01-31-2015, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

We'll have 6 games that would be on ESPN3/Jayhawk network only. MU wouldn't be one of those games, most likely. If it is, then that would be even more reason NOT to schedule them. Only gives them exposure.

The rest of our games are going to be nationally televised. So, would you be willing to replace a ranked team with a significantly higher viewership with MU? Doesn't make sense.

So you are one of those guys, who hold a grudge against someone I bet. Someone would agree to give you 1Million dollars, but the terms of the payment would have to include giving someone you hate 100K. You would just decline, cuz, **** that guy. He doesnt deserve to be happy either.

Silock · 02-01-2015, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

So you are one of those guys, who hold a grudge against someone I bet. Someone would agree to give you 1Million dollars, but the terms of the payment would have to include giving someone you hate 100K. You would just decline, cuz, **** that guy. He doesnt deserve to be happy either.

No, I'm just looking at it objectively. MU doesn't bring national attention. KU does, no matter who we play. Why would scheduling the cellar dweller of the SEC be a better game than scheduling someone like Georgetown? Even Temple has a bigger viewership than MU.

You're saying people will tune in because of the rivalry. They'd tune back out after we go up by 20 points and stay there. At least some other school would give us a good game that would prepare our team. Scheduling MU does nothing in terms of bringing more positive exposure for our team that scheduling another, better team wouldn't do.

Chiefspants · 02-01-2015, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock

Only gives them exposure.

That argument is a non-starter in a world where they play Kentucky 1-2 times a season.

03-23-2014, 02:07 PM
ArrowheadHawk Rock Chalk! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Casino cash: $7744961	** OFFICIAL 2014-2015 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread 11 straight Conference Championships! Ranking #9 (26-8,13-5) Non-Con Schedule (11-2) Spoiler! 11/14/2014 UC Santa Barbara Lawrence, Kan. W 69-59 (1-0) 11/18/2014 Kentucky Indianapolis, Ind. L 40-72 (1-1) Orlando Classic 11/24/2014 Rider Lawrence, Kan. W 87-60 (2-1) 11/27/2014 Rhode Island Orlando, Fla. W 76-60 (3-1) 11/28/2014 Tennessee Orlando, Fla. W 82-67 (4-1) 11/30/2014 Michigan State Orlando, Fla. W 61-56 (5-1) 12/5/2014 Florida Lawrence, Kan. W 71-65 (6-1) 12/10/2014 Georgetown Washington, DC W 75-70 (7-1) 12/13/2014 Utah Kansas City, Mo. W 63-60 (8-1) 12/20/2014 Lafayette Lawrence, Kan. W 96-69 (9-1) 12/22/2014 Temple Philadelphia, PA L 52-77 (9-2) 12/30/2014 Kent State Lawrence, Kan. W 78-62 (10-2) 1/4/2015 UNLV Lawrence, Kan. W 76-61 (11-2) Conference Schedule Spoiler! 1/7/2015 Baylor Waco, Texas W 56-55 (12-2,1-0) 1/10/2015 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. W 86-54 (13-2,2-0) 1/13/2015 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. W 67-57 (14-2,3-0) 1/17/2015 Iowa State Ames, Iowa L 81-86 (14-3,3-1) 1/19/2015 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. W 85-78 (15-3,4-1) 1/24/2015 Texas Austin, Texas W 75-62 (16-3,5-1) 1/28/2015 TCU Fort Worth, Texas W 64-61(17-3,6-1) 1/31/2015 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. W 68-57(18-3,7-1) 2/2/2015 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. W 89-76(19-3,8-1) 2/7/2015 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. L 62-67(19-4,8-2) 2/10/2015 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas W 73-51(20-4,9-2) 2/14/2015 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. W 74-64(21-4,10-2) 2/16/2015 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. L 61-62(21-5,10-3) 2/21/2015 TCU Lawrence, Kan. W 81-72(22-5,11-3) 2/23/2015 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. L 63-70(22-6,11-4) 2/28/2015 Texas Lawrence, Kan. W 69-64(23-6,12-4) 3/3/2015 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. W 76-69(24-6,12-4) 3/7/2015 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. L 73-75(24-7,12-5) Big 12 Championship 3/12/2015 TCU Kansas City, Mo. W 64-59(25-7) 3/13/2015 Baylor KC, Mo W 62-52(26-7) 3/14/2015 Iowa State KC, Mo W 66-70(25-8) Fri, March 20 NMSU at Kansas Omaha, NE CBS at 11:15a.m. CT Players Spoiler!** New Players Hunter Mickelson - F Transfer Cliff Alexander - 5 Star C Kelly Oubre - 5 Star F/G Devonte Graham - 4 Star PG Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk - (Not Ranked but equivalent to 5 Star) G Players Lost Tarik Black - Graduation Andrew Wiggins - NBA Draft Joel Embiid - NBA Draft Justin Wesley - Graduation Niko Roberts - Graduation Christian Garrett - Graduation Naadir Tharpe - Transfer Andrew White - Transfer Conner Frankamp - Transfer Returning Starters Wayne Selden, Jr. - G - Sophmore Perry Ellis - F - Junior Last edited by ArrowheadHawk; 03-16-2015 at 07:58 PM..
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Bambi Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York City Casino cash: $10036993	It's hilarious that MU fans hold getting into the SEC after they were rejected from the B1G as their crowning achievement in sports. They are a group of people who I'm not sure get what this is all about. Alabama, LSU, etc all welcomed in football programs they couple beat and nothing has changed in that regard. I never thought MU Basketball would be the laughing-stock that it is today but oh well, good luck to them.
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Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	Texas A&M has been the same exact way. I have wondered about Nebraska's take on their new digs. They've completely fallen off the KC media radar though so you have to hit up their message boards to find out I suppose. Billay seems thrilled with the Corn's new place in college sports.
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Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10020882	No one has yet named the benefits. People outside of KU and MU don't care that we hate each other. It has little national draw. It would if MU were consistently good in basketball, but they're not, so no one cares.
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Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $6878717	Save your strength, America: Jayhawks say they 'owe' one to Iowa State LAWRENCE, Kan. -- So now the page turns, happily, knuckles cracking. "We owe them," Kelly Oubre Jr. said. "We owe them," Wayne Selden said. The "them" is No. 15 Iowa State, the "we" is No. 9 Kansas and the cage is the venerable Allen Fieldhouse on Monday night, the tail end of National Super Bowl Hangover Recovery Day. "They beat us. That simple. They beat us," Oubre offered Saturday following KU's 68-57 win over Kansas State. "We took our first loss in the Big 12 (to Iowa State), and we owe them one. "We could be undefeated right now. That's the way I look at it. So we owe 'em one." Save your strength, America. The last time they touched gloves, the Cyclones (16-4, 6-2) ran the Jayhawks (18-3, 7-1) out of the gym. Literally. Team Hoiberg collected 21 fast-break points, Team Self had just 10 and KU fell at Hilton Coliseum, 86-81, on Jan. 17, its second setback to Iowa State in 10 months. "Transition buckets," Selden said when asked what images from Ames wound up seared into his brain. "And them getting a lot of easy buckets. You know, that's one thing we really don't want to do is give anybody easy buckets, and we gave them easy points." There's a theme there, at least in the KU camp, and it's that Round 1 was a giveaway of sorts -- a letdown, an "effort" thing. And nothing -- nothing -- gets under coach Bill Self's epidermis quite like "effort" things, boys and girls. To paraphrase Ike and Tina Turner's version of "Proud Mary," KU doesn't want any opponent to get away with anything nice and easy. "They made us look foolish many possessions there in Ames," Self said. "Even though it was a two-possession game late, we didn't put our best foot forward there." Nov 27, 2014; Kissimmee, FL, USA; Kansas Jayhawks mascot, Big Jay, and cheerleaders cheers on the court against the Rhode Island Rams during the first half at HP Field house at Wide World of Sports Complex. Mandatory Credit: Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports Kim Klement Lookin' good! Check out our gallery of Big 12 hoops cheerleaders. That best foot was forward Saturday, especially early, and usually up the Wildcats' collective backsides. The hosts raced out to a 20-5 lead in the tilt's first eight minutes, working the Allen Fieldhouse crowd into the usual lather. Even with Kansas State's basketball profile up to a decade of relevance now, this series still plays out largely like a driveway game, one in which the Wildcats are the 11-year-old, flailing and reaching for the ball. The Jayhawks, on the other hand, are the 16-year-old big brother, protecting the rock with one hand and stiff-arming the little guy with the other. Little Brother is 4-49 in his past 53 meetings with KU, which is why Little Brother is referred to as such in Kansas circles. That and the fact that the Jayhawks have won the past nine in Lawrence by an average margin of 18.4 points. So, in a sense, this one was close, relatively speaking. Or less egregious. At least the zebras felt compelled to let 'em play. Or rather, let 'em miss. The Wildcats' 17 percent clip from the floor in the first period was the fourth-worst shooting half in the program's history. "Obviously, if you're going to come in here you have to guard them and fight them," said K-State coach Bruce Weber, who fell to 0-3 with the 'Cats at the Phog. "I'm not saying with fists -- you have to battle them. If you don't do that, if you think you're going to go in and just be pretty soft, you aren't going to win." K-State (12-10, 5-4) got off the mat, shifting the narrative to trading-baskets mode in the final 20 minutes, but were never able to cut the KU lead to single digits, never able to mount a consistent threat, despite 13 second-half points from Marcus Foster. Meanwhile, the Jayhawks continued their trend of napping for 10-to-12-minute stretches in the second half after a big lead. A trait that also gets under the skin of you-know-who a bit. "It's like Sybil -- we've got multiple personalities within the game," Self cracked. "That's what's frustrating." Alas, the 'Cats were a Foster short of making this one truly interesting. But it wasn't for lack of want-to: During one early timeout, a red-faced Weber was captured on social media turning magenta with anger in the huddle, ripping a staffer's clipboard out of the poor guy's hands and hurling it to the ground in rage. "I was just disappointed," Weber said later. "And we talked about not going 1-on-1, and having some pride and guarding, not just letting them dribble down the lane and make layups." The Jayhawks collected 38 points in the paint, 22 in the first half, to K-State's 24 and 10. Although after losing by 21 and 26 in his past two trips to Naismith Drive, an 11-point deficit felt almost close enough for Weber to touch. Almost. "They just out-grinded us," Weber said. It was a grindy tilt and a star-studded crowd: Among the notables spotted in the crowd were Royals Eric Hosmer, Sal Perez, Mike Moustakas and Jarrod Dyson; Chiefs linebacker Derrick Johnson; and former KU standouts Sherron Collins, Scot Pollard and Eric Chenowith. Saturday belonged to the stars. Monday? Monday is about the stakes. And if you don't believe us, ask the Cyclones' Naz Long: Time to settle it. Once and for all. http://www.foxsports.com/kansas-city...yclones-013115 __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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