Who Do You Think KC Will Draft Round 1?

[kccrow]

Simple question. This is truly a who will it be question. It can evolve over time.

My pick is Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami.

Mocks abound have him in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th round. Nah, not with that speed. There's a legit possibility that kid runs in the 4.2s and is a certainty to run in the mid-4.3s.

He's a virtual clone of DeSean Jackson in almost every way. I think Reid tries to strike gold twice and asks Dorsey to reach to get it. Dorsett is a virtual joystick.

I know Jackson was taken in the middle of round 2, but Jackson has produced at the NFL level. I see teams looking hard at Dorsett early. Jackson has had 900+ yards in every season except for his injury shortened 2012 (700 yards) and has broken 1000 4 times.

[BossChief]

Nothing at guard
Nothing at tackle
Parker is unsigned and Abdullah has a year left
Only 1 TE
Nothing but a promising rookie at receiver
Nothing at quarterback
Smith is in a contract year
Poe is entering a contract year
Howard is in a contract year
Nothing at ILB (but DJ coming off an Achilles at his age)

They need to have a good offseason if we are gonna be able to improve the roster.

Lots of huge question marks next offseason.

[Direckshun]

The Chiefs can go virtually any direction. About the two positions on this team we can't stand to upgrade are FB and P.

Everything else, we could use some work at.

[kccrow]

Here's something fun for you guys... Not necessarily a tell all of what will be done. I charted Reid and Dorsey's draft history. Whether each were directly in control of the selection or not, both were integrally involved. This looks at collegiate position primarily, not eventual pro position.




What I see is that 41% of the time they have taken a DLineman in round 1, followed by 18% an OLineman.

They take a WR or DB 21% of the time in round 2, with Dline at 18%, and then OLine and Linebacker at 12%.

In round 3, they take a DBack 28% of the time...

You can go through this and draw your own conclusions. Its mostly trend analysis, not necessarily will it be a perfect predictive model

[royalschiefs]

Awesome

thanks for making that kccrow

[kccrow]

Here is another look at breakouts by round and then also by position groupings:

Round 1
1. DT - 22%
2. DE - 19%
3. LB - 11%
3. WR - 11%
3. OT - 11%
6. OG - 7%
6. CB - 7%
6. QB - 7%
9. TE - 4%

1. Defensive Line - 41%
2. Offensive Line - 18%
3. Passing Weapon - 15%
4. Linebacker - 11%
5. Defensive Back - 7%
5. Quarterback - 7%

Round 2
1. WR - 21%
2. LB - 12%
3. DE - 9%
3. OT - 9%
3. DT - 9%
3. CB - 9%
3. FS - 9%
8. RB - 6%
8. QB - 6%
10. OG - 3%
10. TE - 3%
10. SS - 3%

1. Passing Weapon - 24%
2. Defensive Back - 21%
3. Defensive Line - 18%
4. Linebacker - 12%
4. Offensive Line - 12%

Round 3

1. CB - 14%
1. RB - 14%
1. SS - 14%
4. LB - 11%
4. DE - 11%
6. WR - 7%
6. DT - 7%
6. TE - 7%
6. OG- 7%
10. QB - 4%
10. KP - 4%

1. Defensive Back - 28%
2. Defensive Line - 18%
3. Passing Weapon - 14%
3. Running Back - 14%
5. Linebacker - 11%

Round 4
1. Linebacker 12%
1. Wide Receiver - 12%
1. Offensive Tackle - 12%
1. Cornerback - 12%
1. Free Safety - 12%
6. Offensive Guard - 10%
7. Running Back - 7%
8. Defensive End - 5%
8. Strong Safety - 5%
10. Defensive Tackle - 2%
10. Tight End - 2%
10. Quarterback - 2%
10. Offensive Center - 2%
10. Kicker/Punter - 2%

1. Defensive Back - 29%
2. Offensive Line - 24%
3. Passing Weapon - 14%
4. Linebacker - 12%
5. Running Back - 7%
5. Defensive Line - 7%

Round 5
1. Offensive Guard - 13%
1. Tight End - 13%
3. Wide Reciever - 11%
3. Defensive End - 11%
3. Offensive Tackle - 11%
3. Cornerback - 11%
3. Quarterback - 11%
8. Linebacker - 8%
9. Running Back - 5%
10. Defensive Tackle - 3%
10. Free Safety 3%
10. Fullback 3%

1. Offensive Line - 24%
1. Passing Weapon - 24%
3. Defensive Line - 14%
3. Defensive Back - 14%
5. Quarterback - 11%

Round 6
1. Linebacker - 17%
2. Offensive Tackle - 12%
3. Wide Receiver - 10%
3. Defensive Tackle - 10%
3. Offensive Guard - 10%
6. Defensive End - 7%
6. Cornerback - 7%
6. Running Back - 7%
6. Offensive Center - 7%
10. Fullback - 5%
11. Tight End - 2%
11. Quarterback - 2%
11. Kicker/Punter - 2%

1. Offensive Line - 29%
2. Linebacker - 17%
2. Defensive Line - 17%
4. Passing Weapon - 12%
5. Rushing Weapon - 12%

Round 7
1. Linebacker - 16%
2. Running Back - 14%
3. Defensive Tackle - 12%
4. Wide Receiver - 9%
4. Defensive End - 9%
4. Offensive Guard - 9%
7. Tight End - 7%
7. Offensive Tackle - 7%
9. Quarterback - 5%
9. Strong Safety - 5%
11. Cornerback - 2%
11. Free Safety - 2%
11. Offensive Center - 2%

1. Defensive Line - 21%
2. Offensive Line - 18%
3. Linebacker - 16%
3. Passing Weapon - 16%
5. Running Back - 14%

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by royalschiefs

Awesome

thanks for making that kccrow

No prob, enjoy.

[Direckshun]

Wow. Deserves its own thread, kccrow.

[Tribal Warfare]

Honestly, I'm indifferent about this offseason because the Chiefs aren't going anywhere with Alex as the starting QB.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You work Hudson a deal before Houston. He's that important.

Holy elk shit, did I just read this? Are you tripping balls right now?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Holy elk shit, did I just read this? Are you tripping balls right now?

Nope.

[Warpaint69]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I do enjoy the notion that Dorsey doesn't care about straight line speed...

Tell me, how did Avery, Jenkins, Thomas and Wilson all time in the 40?

All 4.3's? Must be coincidence.

Just a tidbit from the noob.

#4 Pick Sammy Watkins
6-1 211
40- 4.39
20- 2.52
10- 1.54
Bench- 16
Vert- 34
Broad- 10'6"
20 yrd shuttle- 4.34
3 cone- 6.95

Undrafted Albert Wilson
5-9 202
40-4.38
20-2.50
10-1.54
Bench-10
Vert -37.5
Broad- 10'3"
20 yrd shuttle- 4.21
3 cone-7.00

2 very comparable players at either end of the draft process. The only thing separating the 2 is probably their height and where they played.

[ptlyon]

Some shitty "reach pick"

Sorry if Q

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Nope.

Well, it is well documented how you overvalue linemen like some crazy mother****er. Shouldn't have been surprised, I suppose.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Well, it is well documented how you overvalue linemen like some crazy mother****er. Shouldn't have been surprised, I suppose.

I don't overvalue them. I just understand their value.

Having a competent center is the keystone to building a solid, cohesive offensive line. Having one who has now developed a rapport with the QB over the past two seasons, is young and is still on an upswing even though he's one of the best at his position in the league is a priority to re-sign.

Hudson is every bit as important to the continued success of this team as Houston is. Maybe more. The dude kicked ass this year with a rookie on his right and the two worst guards in the NFL on his left. That says something.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I don't overvalue them. I just understand their value.

Having a competent center is the keystone to building a solid, cohesive offensive line. Having one who has now developed a rapport with the QB over the past two seasons, is young and is still on an upswing even though he's one of the best at his position in the league is a priority to re-sign.

Hudson is every bit as important to the continued success of this team as Houston is. Maybe more. The dude kicked ass this year with a rookie on his right and the two worst guards in the NFL on his left. That says something.

I get the value of talented linemen, I do. One has to look no further than Vermeil's teams to understand what a talented offensive line can do for a team overall. But I don't think Hudson brings to the offense half of what Houston brings to the defense. Hudson is a solid, solid guy that I like, but Houston is a once a decade talent we absolutely stole in the draft.

Letting a Justin Houston walk or be traded to keep a Rodney Hudson should get Dorsey fired if he were to do it, and I really want us to keep Hudson.