Apple iWatch Do you want?

[Deberg_1990]

Looks solid, but i must say.......it looks like an attractive way to get yourself mugged if your walking around with $500 to $1000+ on your wrist. Thoughts?


http://www.vox.com/2015/3/9/8175517/...ting-expensive

[DaveNull]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

But do you think we'll ever see Apple make a product compatible with Android? Hell no.

Apple is developing the next version of the Beats streaming service to work on Android.

[DaveNull]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Android Wear is supposed to have iPhone compatibility soon.
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/03...-compatbility/

That may be the case, but the developers out there will be targeting the Apple Watch first. Regardless of whether it outsells Android Wear watches, people that are going to buy an Apple Watch are less likely to expect everything they run on there to be free.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by DaveNull

That may be the case, but the developers out there will be targeting the Apple Watch first. Regardless of whether it outsells Android Wear watches, people that are going to buy an Apple Watch are less likely to expect everything they run on there to be free.

Developers have been jumping ship on Apple for awhile now. The market share simply isn't there anymore. (I know this since I develop for both and it almost isn't worth my time to focus on iOS anymore) Combine that with Android's head start and the limited functionality and I doubt there will be much difference in the app space here.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Developers have been jumping ship on Apple for awhile now. The market share simply isn't there anymore. (I know this since I develop for both and it almost isn't worth my time to focus on iOS anymore) Combine that with Android's head start and the limited functionality and I doubt there will be much difference in the app space here.

Speaking of market share... Remember when you lost that bet with me regarding Apple's tablet market share?

Apple still maintains well over 15% market share by the way.

While Android will continue to keep its place as the leading operating system, Apple, with 27.5% market share, remains the single-biggest brand in the tablet market. IDC tells me that in Q3 specifically, Apple’s iPad had a 22.1% share.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/25/idc...-235-7m-units/

Ever going to come good on your bet?

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Fish

Speaking of market share... Remember when you lost that bet with me regarding Apple's tablet market share?

Apple still maintains well over 15% market share by the way.



Ever going to come good on your bet?

Apple isn't at 15%, you keep looking at bullshit figures like IDC which only count the major brands... totally ignoring the massive white-label market and small brands which are all androids. I'll have to check but I think it's close to 100 million total units shipped last quarter. A quick check of Apple and they were around 12 million of those. I can't confirm these figures though because I'm not willing to pay $2000 for the actual report.

I do however have a friend in Germany who might be able to get us the report through his company. I'll ask him but this is probably all moot because although I think there is no way I am not correct NOW, I doubt I was correct when our bet finished... although I think it is much closer than the idiotic IDC figures.

I'll reach out to my friend and if he gets us the reports great if not I'll concede. If I remember correctly you wanted this tablet...

[mr. tegu]

[DaveNull]

Profesional product designer breaks down the Apple manufacturing videos about the Apple Watch.

Of note:

Casting is a process that doesn't offer the level of precision Apple needs for the next step and this machining allows them to control the dimensions of the ingot to within 0.01mm.

This level of inspection is, to put it mildly, fastidious beyond where most other companies would go (save Rolex). Immersion ultrasonic inspection is typically reserved for highly stressed medical implants and rotating components inside of aircraft engines; not only does this step take time, it also is typically performed by custom built machines of tremendous expense.

Though I design aluminum parts, I long ago gave up even attempting to craft them to Apple's finishing standards. No company in the world is finishing and anodizing to Apple's level and part of their secret is every perfectly bead blasted Apple surface starts off as a perfectly polished surface. To compete with Apple, one either needs to invest in equipment with prices equivalent to a CNC machine (6 axis robotic arms with custom end actuators - i.e. hands - to hold your parts), or pay staggering sums of money to have an expert hand polish your parts and accept the fact that the best you will ever get is a reject rate of 10%.

Most anodizing racks are general purpose affairs with clips or hooks that both hold the part and make the positive electrical contact. Apple is using custom formed and plastic dipped racks that very (very) densely hold parts. It's yet another detail that anyone in manufacturing is likely to look at and think "Wow, I wish we had the volume/budget to pull that trick off."

I see these videos and I see a process that could only have been created by a team looking to execute on a level far beyond what was necessary or what will be noticed. This isn't a supply chain, it is a ritual Apple is performing to bring themselves up to the standards necessary to compete against companies with centuries of experience.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by DaveNull

Profesional product designer breaks down the Apple manufacturing videos about the Apple Watch.

Of note:

simply put... Apple's manufacturing process means you'll have a watch that can last a lifetime but will still be obsolete in 2-3 years.

[DaFace]

I'm assuming not, but has there been any talk of being able to upgrade the core watch without having to upgrade the band and enclosure somehow? That's the only thing that could make it a little more worth it.

[The Rick]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'm assuming not, but has there been any talk of being able to upgrade the core watch without having to upgrade the band and enclosure somehow? That's the only thing that could make it a little more worth it.

This image and the blurb alongside it on their site for the watch raises the possibility. Unlikely, but who knows. Here's the blurb:

Massive constraints have a way of inspiring interesting, creative solutions. A prime example is the custom-designed chip at the heart of Apple Watch. No traditional computer architecture could fit within such a confined space. So we found a way to integrate many subsystems into one remarkably compact module, which is then completely encapsulated in resin to protect the electronics from the elements, impact, and wear. Configuring an entire computer system on a single chip is an industry first and represents a singular feat of engineering and miniaturization.

[DaveNull]

Some speculation that it might be possible based on the whole system being on a single self contained chip. Honestly I don't think it matters. Anyone getting an Edition has enough money not to care about the thing being obsolete. The Sport edition is almost the same price as the old click-wheel iPods were and you never heard people bitching about not being able to upgrade those.

[alpha_omega]

nope. don't wear a watch and i sure wouldn't wear this one.

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

simply put... Apple's manufacturing process means you'll have a watch that can last a lifetime but will still be obsolete in 2-3 years.

[morphius]

Originally Posted by The Rick

Configuring an entire computer system on a single chip is an industry first and represents a singular feat of engineering and miniaturization.

I assume they are talking about the smart watch market, because anything more than that would be doubtful.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by The Rick

No traditional computer architecture could fit within such a confined space. So we found a way to integrate many subsystems into one remarkably compact module, which is then completely encapsulated in resin to protect the electronics from the elements, impact, and wear. Configuring an entire computer system on a single chip is an industry first and represents a singular feat of engineering and miniaturization.

It's sad that anyone would believe crap like this. As if we haven't had SoC for years upon years now. But fanbois will be fanbois I guess.