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ArrowheadHawk · 07:58 PM

11 straight Conference Championships!

Ranking #9 (26-8,13-5)

Non-Con Schedule (11-2)

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Conference Schedule

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Fri, March 20 NMSU at Kansas Omaha, NE CBS at 11:15a.m. CT

Players

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**Baby Lee** · 03-16-2015, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It's working out pretty well for Calipari, I'd say.

Where does he coach? Oh, not KU?

KC_Connection · 03-16-2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Where does he coach? Oh, not KU?

If you're arguing that recruiting the best high school players in the country is a bad choice for an elite college basketball program, it just seems like there's a pretty obvious way to counter that.

**Baby Lee** · 03-16-2015, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

If you're arguing that recruiting the best high school players in the country is a bad choice for an elite college basketball program, it just seems like there's a pretty obvious way to counter that.

Some get Manning, some get Leaf.

KC_Connection · 03-16-2015, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Some get Manning, some get Leaf.

UK had a NIT team a few years ago, so it seems that it's more or less luck of the draw.

It doesn't really matter anyway, though, because "one and dones" are on the way out if the Adam Silver and the NBA get what they want in the next few years (and they will).

**Baby Lee** · 03-16-2015, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

UK had a NIT team a few years ago, so it seems that it's more or less luck of the draw.

It doesn't really matter anyway, though, because "one and dones" are on the way out if the Adam Silver and the NBA get what they want in the next few years (and they will).

Much like the tournament itself, eh?

Why are we so invested in watching millionaires coach soon to be millionaires flip a coin?

KCTitus · 03-16-2015, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Loving this brave new one and done strategy.

We get another tournament flameout, one and dones are off to their millions.

Glad KU is now carrying the entire kharmic weight of NCAA abuses.

Yeah, I'm not liking the one and done deal...

KC_Connection · 03-16-2015, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Much like the tournament itself, eh?

Why are we so invested in watching millionaires coach soon to be millionaires flip a coin?

Same reason anybody is a sports fan of anything (and that isn't particularly rational either).

**the Talking Can** · 03-16-2015, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

His mom/him...it doesn't matter, they're not talking to the NCAA. And if you're not going to do it to play the tournament, it's never gonna happen.

yes, it does matter

it's his mom they want to talk to, and his mom won't talk

KC_Connection · 03-16-2015, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

yes, it does matter

it's his mom they want to talk to, and his mom won't talk

Not sure how that difference matters at all. Nobody in his family (including him) is going to talk to the NCAA and that means Cliff is done playing basketball at the NCAA level.

**Meatloaf** · 03-16-2015, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Not sure how that difference matters at all. Nobody in his family (including him) is going to talk to the NCAA and that means Cliff is done playing basketball at the NCAA level.

What a cruddy way to end a college career. Sometimes things just don't work out well. I guess this is one of those times.

Feel bad for Cliff especially if he knew nothing about the loan. Just a bad situation all the way around.

**Lzen** · 03-16-2015, 03:08 PM

So, what do you guys think of our first round opponent? I saw they had 23 wins and was like "huh?, how did we get an opponent with 23 wins?" Then I looked at their RPI (#103 yeah, screw Kenpom and their pay site) and their strength of opponents. The highest ranked team they beat was #78 UTEP. And they only have 2 wins against top 100 RPI teams. They only played another 6 teams in the top 100 RPI. And in those games, admittedly, they did have a couple of close scores but still lost. Most of the teams they played were in the 150-350 RPI rank.

So, I guess we should not be too worried here. Yes, they are 10-0 in their last 10 games. However, the highest ranked team they have played in that stretch is #274.

KC_Connection · 03-16-2015, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf

What a cruddy way to end a college career. Sometimes things just don't work out well. I guess this is one of those times.

Feel bad for Cliff especially if he knew nothing about the loan. Just a bad situation all the way around.

Yeah, sucks for Cliff who now has the choice of whether to go pro being made for him. Also sucks for KU who lose any real chance of making a NCAA run this year and whatever Cliff may have provided next year had he stayed.

KC_Connection · 03-16-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

So, what do you guys think of our first round opponent? I saw they had 23 wins and was like "huh?, how did we get an opponent with 23 wins?" Then I looked at their RPI (#103 yeah, screw Kenpom and their pay site) and their strength of opponents. The highest ranked team they beat was #78 UTEP. And they only have 2 wins against top 100 RPI teams. They only played another 6 teams in the top 100 RPI. And in those games, admittedly, they did have a couple of close scores but still lost. Most of the teams they played were in the 150-350 RPI rank.

So, I guess we should not be too worried here. Yes, they are 10-0 in their last 10 games. However, the highest ranked team they have played in that stretch is #274.

New Mexico St. is more like a 12-13 seed in terms of quality and could definitely beat KU. They play at a slow tempo and destroy teams on the offensive boards (which KU doesn't have the personnel to really be able to stop). I'd expect a close game with a KU win, but it could easily go the other way.

KC_Connection · 03-16-2015, 03:16 PM

KenPom gives KU a 84% chance of winning the game, lowest of any of the 2 seeds (Arizona-98%, Virginia-95%, Gonzaga-94%). Kind of shows how much better NMSU is than the other 15s. Think of them as a much less talented Baylor with no Gathers.

Silock · 03-16-2015, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

KenPom gives KU a 84% chance of winning the game, lowest of any of the 2 seeds (Arizona-98%, Virginia-95%, Gonzaga-94%). Kind of shows how much better NMSU is than the other 15s. Think of them as a much less talented Baylor with no Gathers.

Whom we beat 3 times. Not worried.

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03-16-2015, 03:08 PM	#3626
Lzen Banded Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oz Casino cash: $-559308	So, what do you guys think of our first round opponent? I saw they had 23 wins and was like "huh?, how did we get an opponent with 23 wins?" Then I looked at their RPI (#103 yeah, screw Kenpom and their pay site) and their strength of opponents. The highest ranked team they beat was #78 UTEP. And they only have 2 wins against top 100 RPI teams. They only played another 6 teams in the top 100 RPI. And in those games, admittedly, they did have a couple of close scores but still lost. Most of the teams they played were in the 150-350 RPI rank. So, I guess we should not be too worried here. Yes, they are 10-0 in their last 10 games. However, the highest ranked team they have played in that stretch is #274. __________________ Conversation would be vastly improved by the constant use of four simple words: I do not know.
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KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $1672783	KenPom gives KU a 84% chance of winning the game, lowest of any of the 2 seeds (Arizona-98%, Virginia-95%, Gonzaga-94%). Kind of shows how much better NMSU is than the other 15s. Think of them as a much less talented Baylor with no Gathers.
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