Late night bullshit: drafting the Chiefs in the CP Mock.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Of course everybody is forgetting that Erving can play left tackle at a high level as well, as long with every position on the line.

Right.

And this OL is a mystery, right now.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Right.

And this OL is a mystery, right now.

No.

The offensive line is a mystery to YOU, not Andy Reid or John Dorsey. You'll never, ever, EVER be in the ballpark if you don't think like the people that are actually making the selections. Dorsey has now gone on record saying that Kush is his guy. He'll bring in competition, but there's not a chance in hell he does it in Round One.

I don't believe that you've actually seen an NFL game.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No.

The offensive line is a mystery to YOU, not Andy Reid or John Dorsey. You'll never, ever, EVER be in the ballpark if you don't think like the people that are actually making the selections. Dorsey has now gone on record saying that Kush is his guy. He'll bring in competition, but there's not a chance in hell he does it in Round One.

I don't believe that you've actually seen an NFL game.

Well first of all, I don't have to think like Dorsey/Reid in the CP mock. I'm the GM, not doing a Dorsey imitation.

Secondly, Dorsey has absolutely not said Kush starts week one -- he said they have complete confidence in him, which is promising but what else is Dorsey going to say about a guy he drafted. Plus, Dorsey said that a day AFTER my selection, so that quote wasn't capable of coloring my decision-making process.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Well first of all, I don't have to think like Dorsey/Reid in the CP mock. I'm the GM, not doing a Dorsey imitation.

Secondly, Dorsey has absolutely not said Kush starts week one -- he said they have complete confidence in him, which is promising but what else is Dorsey going to say about a guy he drafted. Plus, Dorsey said that a day AFTER my selection, so that quote wasn't capable of coloring my decision-making process.

Good grief.

Dorsey has had absolutely no issue with cutting players he's acquired. If he didn't like Kush, he'd be gone.

You as the GM would suck more than Schaaf, Peterson and Pioli combined.

You couldn't draft the right players if you were given every pick in the draft.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good grief.

Dorsey has had absolutely no issue with cutting players he's acquired. If he didn't like Kush, he'd be gone.

You as the GM would suck more than Schaaf, Peterson and Pioli combined.

You couldn't draft the right players if you were given every pick in the draft.

Point goes to Dane

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No.

The offensive line is a mystery to YOU, not Andy Reid or John Dorsey. You'll never, ever, EVER be in the ballpark if you don't think like the people that are actually making the selections. Dorsey has now gone on record saying that Kush is his guy. He'll bring in competition, but there's not a chance in hell he does it in Round One.

I don't believe that you've actually seen an NFL game.

I don't believe about half of the bullshit that GMs and coaches spew, and doubt the rest.

Cameron Erving would not be my first choice for that pick, but it's not nearly as ridiculous as you make it out to be.

We can certainly use more weapons, but I'd rather do my damnedest to make sure that the weapons we do have aren't wasted because Alex Smith is getting his ass pounded into the turf, or running for his life.

And right now, bullshit be damned, we can't do that.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

I don't believe about half of the bullshit that GMs and coaches spew, and doubt the rest.

Cameron Erving would not be my first choice for that pick, but it's not nearly as ridiculous as you make it out to be.

It wouldn't be as ridiculous of the Chiefs had even one wide receiver on the roster that actually scored a touchdown in one of sixteen games last year.

60 minutes x 16 games = 960 minutes without a TD by a receiver. That's insane.

You may not believe Dorsey but considering the way he's addressed the WR and guard spots, I believe that if he was truly unhappy with Kush, he'd have placed a higher priority in free agency.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It wouldn't be as ridiculous of the Chiefs had even one wide receiver on the roster that actually scored a touchdown in one of sixteen games last year.

60 minutes x 16 games = 960 minutes without a TD by a receiver. That's insane.

You may not believe Dorsey but considering the way he's addressed the WR and guard spots, I believe that if he was truly unhappy with Kush, he'd have placed a higher priority in free agency.

Jeremy Maclin is going to be a part of the solution (a big part), and there should be good value at WR in the second round.

I actually don't care what they go with in the first round, wheher it be WR, OL, ILB, or corner.

Just give me the best player that plugs a hole.

[Meatloaf]

Originally Posted by milkman

Jeremy Maclin is going to be a part of the solution (a big part), and there should be good value at WR in the second round.

I actually don't care what they go with in the first round, wheher it be WR, OL, ILB, or corner.

Just give me the best player that plugs a hole.

Milk, what if the BPA is a DT, DE or OLB, would you not take that guy at 1.18?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

Jeremy Maclin is going to be a part of the solution (a big part), and there should be good value at WR in the second round.

I actually don't care what they go with in the first round, wheher it be WR, OL, ILB, or corner.

Just give me the best player that plugs a hole.

I'm good with those positions, too. There will be WR's in the second that can probably start immediately.

But if they were to go center, then it's possible that their second rounder may be a CB or ILBer, pushing receiver to the third.

I just don't believe that center at #18 would be the choice and could have a ripple effect with the end result being less talented players at serious postions of need.

[Meatloaf]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm good with those positions, too. There will be WR's in the second that can probably start immediately.

But if they were to go center, then it's possible that their second rounder may be a CB or ILBer, pushing receiver to the third.

I just don't believe that center at #18 would be the choice and could have a ripple effect with the end result being less talented players at serious postions of need.

I don't think they'd be taking Erving strictly as a center. Rather, as I believe Discuss said, they might have him inked as a tackle (which I believe he played year before last). I think we need a tackle more than we need a center. Maybe they see this guy as both. If so, well, that'd make sense I guess.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm good with those positions, too. There will be WR's in the second that can probably start immediately.

But if they were to go center, then it's possible that their second rounder may be a CB or ILBer, pushing receiver to the third.

I just don't believe that center at #18 would be the choice and could have a ripple effect with the end result being less talented players at serious postions of need.

I don't know.

I'm thinking the best value for ILB is probably going to be in the 3rd round, and I'm with sac on ILB apparently, cause this is the second year in a row that I really like one that he does in Zach Vigil.

[Meatloaf]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It wouldn't be as ridiculous of the Chiefs had even one wide receiver on the roster that actually scored a touchdown in one of sixteen games last year.

60 minutes x 16 games = 960 minutes without a TD by a receiver. That's insane.

You may not believe Dorsey but considering the way he's addressed the WR and guard spots, I believe that if he was truly unhappy with Kush, he'd have placed a higher priority in free agency.

Dane, I think you and Milk are BOTH right. Alex needs to be upright, and I'd agree that Dorsey would've probably gone the free agent route if he felt Kush wasn't going to at least be adequate. Heck, they kept him as solely a backup center, so apparently they had something in mind.

I agree with Milk though that we definitely need more help on the OL. I just don't know what we have with Stephenson. He played horribly last year (when he played). And, what if Fisher DOESN'T improve. Could get ugly.